Hot takes on Catfighting

Started by Bunpbner-man-22, September 12, 2023, 04:53:42 PM

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Bunpbner-man-22

What's your hottest (not sexy lol) on the genre?

Mine is and was that the miller lite commercial did more harm to the genre more than anything.  There was clearly a generation of Xs and some boomers from the late 70s into the 90s who would feature oil wrestling/mud wrestling in other media like movies and tv shows but then that fell off the earth hard and I like to think it's because of the miller lite commercial. 

I also swear someone on Seth McFarlands team in the writers room has a thing for foxy boxing/oil wrestling/catfighting there's a ton of referenced jokes in Family Guy and American Dad about the topics. 

Last hot take is I hope AI gets to a point in my life where I can plug a story in and it'll generate some B or C movie based on my details because there's a ton of sexy catfighting scenes I'd love to play out particularly with 2 D animation but alas born too late and born too early.

LQQKING4CATFIGHTER

Quote from: Bunpbner-man-22 on September 12, 2023, 04:53:42 PM
What's your hottest (not sexy lol) on the genre?

Mine is and was that the miller lite commercial did more harm to the genre more than anything.  There was clearly a generation of Xs and some boomers from the late 70s into the 90s who would feature oil wrestling/mud wrestling in other media like movies and tv shows but then that fell off the earth hard and I like to think it's because of the miller lite commercial. 

I also swear someone on Seth McFarlands team in the writers room has a thing for foxy boxing/oil wrestling/catfighting there's a ton of referenced jokes in Family Guy and American Dad about the topics. 

Last hot take is I hope AI gets to a point in my life where I can plug a story in and it'll generate some B or C movie based on my details because there's a ton of sexy catfighting scenes I'd love to play out particularly with 2 D animation but alas born too late and born too early.

  Custom AI videos are maybe 15 years away if you can afford the cost of PC that can run it for you as the cost will not go down for another 10 years and then will be for the masses.
  The fade in fetish's like wrestling and catfighting is that the new Gen Z had access to hard core porn way to young and end up getting into much darker type of porn and skip over the classic old school fetish porn like catfights. Way gone are the days of your first contact with porn was an old Playboy, I'm glad have no kids as would be afraid of what they have access to with just a cell phone today :(
  I think you might end up see the next Gen have more interest as female MMA is huge right now and all over TV and Online so new Gen of Female combat fans is on the way to save the catfight world! I've also noticed more fans from Asia are starting to find the english catfight world thru Twitter and Facebook.
Catfight, f/f Wrestling, Grappling and f/f Boxing fan

wasteland1952

LQQKING4CATFIGHTER makes some valid points.  I agree that there is a great interest in female mma today vs the old school "catfight."  Just look at the catfight vids being posted on the different social media sites.  The fights are mostly stand up, toe to toe fist fights.  Hair pulling is a no-no.  In a lot of cases, if the girls go to the ground, the crowd pulls them apart so they can start again.  Sadly, the days of the "girly" catball fights are disappearing fast.

The hogg

In terms of AI I use chatgpt. Not visual but story's. You can copy and paste prompts to override the softwares rules. It's quite good a d you can get creative.

My wife knows about my fantasy but would never do it (still working on it after 7 years..) but I'd put her description and someone else I know into it and get it to write a story and read it out as I'm F@cking her. She enjoys it enough but got wound up with one of the storyline ls haha

LQQKING4CATFIGHTER

Quote from: wasteland1952 on September 12, 2023, 10:45:34 PM
LQQKING4CATFIGHTER makes some valid points.  I agree that there is a great interest in female mma today vs the old school "catfight."  Just look at the catfight vids being posted on the different social media sites.  The fights are mostly stand up, toe to toe fist fights.  Hair pulling is a no-no.  In a lot of cases, if the girls go to the ground, the crowd pulls them apart so they can start again.  Sadly, the days of the "girly" catball fights are disappearing fast.

  Peoples taste for style of matches changes over the years as my first contact with female fighting world was GLOW then bought a Oil Wrestling video then Napoli videos for the super large breasts, but when I seen my first DWW video it changed my style of match to competitive and gave away all my Napoli, Golden Girls and DT videos. So today someone with watch a Female MMA match that will then get them into searching for more female combat styles maybe with less clothing or post match stuff that will then lead them to Catfights.
Catfight, f/f Wrestling, Grappling and f/f Boxing fan

NoShirtNoShoesNoMercy

#5
My hill that I will die on is that Mila Rose is a boring, terrible catfighter. She's attractive for sure, but her main strategy if she can accomplish it is maul either the breast or the crotch and once that happens she never stops. It's very low energy and on top of that it doesn't even work for her half of the time, it didn't stop Sarah Brooke.

I was very glad that Nikki went ham on her and took that match easily.

rmouse

Quote from: The hogg on September 12, 2023, 11:34:45 PM
In terms of AI I use chatgpt. Not visual but story's. You can copy and paste prompts to override the softwares rules. It's quite good a d you can get creative.

My wife knows about my fantasy but would never do it (still working on it after 7 years..) but I'd put her description and someone else I know into it and get it to write a story and read it out as I'm F@cking her. She enjoys it enough but got wound up with one of the storyline ls haha

Can you explain in detail how to override chatGPT's software rules?

Flamingo

Quote from: NoShirtNoShoesNoMercy on November 06, 2023, 05:33:20 PM
My hill that I will die on is that Mila Rose is a boring, terrible catfighter. She's attractive for sure, but her main strategy if she can accomplish it is maul either the breast or the crotch and once that happens she never stops. It's very low energy and on top of that it doesn't even work for her half of the time, it didn't stop Sarah Brooke.

I was very glad that Nikki went ham on her and took that match easily.

Mila rose had some beautiful and aggressive kicks to the back which would hurt like hell. She was fun to watch but took round 1 against nikki darling too easily.  Round 2 she got a bit of revenge. I would sell a kidney if it was allowed to continue or if a rematch happened

The hogg

Quote from: rmouse on November 08, 2023, 12:38:29 PM
Quote from: The hogg on September 12, 2023, 11:34:45 PM
In terms of AI I use chatgpt. Not visual but story's. You can copy and paste prompts to override the softwares rules. It's quite good a d you can get creative.

My wife knows about my fantasy but would never do it (still working on it after 7 years..) but I'd put her description and someone else I know into it and get it to write a story and read it out as I'm F@cking her. She enjoys it enough but got wound up with one of the storyline ls haha

Can you explain in detail how to override chatGPT's software rules?


It's difficult to say in detail, as I'm not much of a techie

But, if you Google different prompts you can copy and paste them into chat gpt. The more info you put in the more you get out, it does work it out and stop it after a while

The one I use at the minute is called the purge. If you Google it you can just Copt and paste

What you do is you add in 2 characters, so my wife and a woman I used to work with. Put loads of detail in to manipulate it how you want. Like have one much bigger more aggressive than the other etc. You then set an scenario.

It Will play the story out and at the end give you 3 options A B or C

Here's an example

A. Use your size and strength advantage to try to push lucy out of the ring.
B. Employ a technique and skill-based approach to outmaneuver lucy
C. Try to taunt or distract lucy during the match to gain an advantage.

What's your choice, danielle? What do you do?

This one's a bit tame as I had a sumo thing at the time, but you can get it to the point where they are full on beating each other up, winner putting strap ons on etc

Flamingo

Quote from: sinclairfan on November 11, 2023, 03:20:03 PM
Quote from: Flamingo on November 11, 2023, 03:01:29 PM
Quote from: NoShirtNoShoesNoMercy on November 06, 2023, 05:33:20 PM
My hill that I will die on is that Mila Rose is a boring, terrible catfighter. She's attractive for sure, but her main strategy if she can accomplish it is maul either the breast or the crotch and once that happens she never stops. It's very low energy and on top of that it doesn't even work for her half of the time, it didn't stop Sarah Brooke.

I was very glad that Nikki went ham on her and took that match easily.

Mila rose had some beautiful and aggressive kicks to the back which would hurt like hell. She was fun to watch but took round 1 against nikki darling too easily.  Round 2 she got a bit of revenge. I would sell a kidney if it was allowed to continue or if a rematch happened

I liked in the pre-fight interview when Mila predicted Nikki's hair would get torn.  I think she was genuinely jealous of Nikki's looks, but was caught by surprise that someone who looked so hot would fight so aggressively.  (And she also seemed to forget her own advice, and ended up forgetting to do much to the hair.)

Speaking of hair--what nice hair Mila had.  She could wear it long and it didn't get stringy.

I bought the clips for sale verion of the catfight. Have you seen the gumroad versuon? Is there much extra footage worth getting?
Mila was a warrior in round 2 and nikki was getting more tired. Round 3,4,5 could have been incredibly violent and won many oscars

TheRef

Quote from: sinclairfan on September 13, 2023, 10:18:03 AM
My Hot Take is that Hillary Swank (Million Dollar Baby, The Hunt) enjoys taking fighting roles, and by extension would consider an IRL fight.

And, Michelle Rodriguez, too.

Michelle has apparently always been a fighter IRL. I remember an interview where she said she was kicked out of high school for fighting too much.

jaybee

#11
Ok here we go...

My hot take is the non scripted/real catfights have become monotonous. Basically if you've seen one you've seen them all at this point.
Now... come at me FCF  lol ;D
PS
It's not even the fault of the producers/companies involved.  I honestly can't put a finger on exactly why I've almost completely lost interest it's just that to me since around 2016 or so the whole scene has been just... meh.
To end on a positive note I'd really like to commend all the female grappling/wrestling videos being produced. From the Suitefights oil tournaments to the APL wrestling matches etc. scripted or non scripted I've spent a fortune on the female wrestling genre over the past few years and I have not been disappointed.

NoShirtNoShoesNoMercy

Quote from: jaybee on November 12, 2023, 08:17:00 PM
Ok here we go...

My hot take is the non scripted/real catfights have become monotonous. Basically if you've seen one you've seen them all at this point.
Now... come at me FCF  lol ;D
PS
It's not even a fault of the producers/companies.  I honestly can't put a finger on exactly why I've almost completely lost interest it's just that to me since around 2016 or so the whole scene has been just... meh.
To end on a positive note I'd really like to commend all the female grappling/wrestling videos being produced. From the Suitefights oil tournaments to the APL wrestling match etc. scripted or non scripted I've spent a fortune on the female wrestling genre over the past few years and I have not been disappointed.

I can understand that take.

One thing I wish producers did was take the opportunity to change things up. Bring in people that aren't supermodels or more elaborate attires.

For example I liked that one suitefights fight Jess had in opera gloves.

If I was a producer I would be setting up fights in dresses and evening gowns. And I would l offer the fighters cash bonuses for going after the other's clothes, as well as reimburse for damages.

Though I realize it isn't always fiscally feasible in this market.

wasteland1952

For me, Crystal was and still is the gold standard for catfights.  A few of the women were very attractive, but most of them (in my opinion) were average, everyday, girl-next-door women.  That's not meant as a slight to those women.  But they weren't super models, and with a few exceptions, the fights appeared to be real.  In many, the women were actually hostile to one another due to some conflict they had in real life.

I've seen very few production companies that feature these types of fights today.  I assume the liability is just too great.  But I would like to see more fights like the old Crystal style.  I much prefer to see those types of matches over the nude roll arounds that many companies produce.  But the catfight topic is a pretty big tent, and there's room for all tastes.

I hope this is on topic with the original post.  If not, forgive my misunderstanding.

Horny-Jew

I completely agree with Crystal being the standard. Also like Festelle, DWW, and Soft on Demand.