Understanding why we like catfights

[Josephinex]

I have recently been coming to terms with the enjoyment I have of watching two beautiful women compete, both physically and/or sexually. It took a long time to accept that this fetish is part of what I like to see and that there many many others like me, given the output of videos and art out there on the internet. This forum especially has been helpful in showing there are like-minded people with similar interests

However, I think part of why it took so long to accept was the shame I felt in having a fetish like this. You tell it to anyone and it can very easily be misunderstood as you like seeing women get hurt or harm each other, and understandably to an outsider it might seem like that, but it's not true at all. At the very least, it's painful and not fun for me to see someone else in pain and I avoid that kind of media, and I imagine it's the same for you. Anyways, it's hard to talk about this to people, especially to partners who want to better know your fantasies

This reprint of an article written in the 60's helps give an idea of why it's enjoyed (https://www.deviantart.com/takao-nakano/journal/The-Psychology-of-the-Catfight-Fetish-877537468) but I didn't find it too helpful in helping understand why this fetish is

Does anyone here have an idea why we like female competition so much and care to share? Or maybe share works by people like psychologists or existing forum threads that explore why we enjoy this?

Thank you for your time,
from a nervous guy understanding his inclinations

[wasteland1952]

Josephinex, you ask the $64,000 question (I know I'm really dating myself with that reference!).

I found a fcf link to an old talk show, Sally Jessy Raphael that dealt with female fighting:  https://www.freecatfights.com/forums/index.php?topic=28879.msg209944#msg209944

Here is the surviving youtube link to that show:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcdrsQC4vIQ&list=UU56RueOWTks7ssInG55Il1A&index=2  The link to part 2 has been taken down by yt.  I remember those episodes from years ago.  I seem to remember seeing an interview with a female psychologist about why guys like to see two girls fight and wrestle.  I remember her saying that in some ways, when two women fight up close, it's not unlike seeing women in a sexual encounter.  That may be BS, but that's what I remember her saying.

[Horny-Jew]

As a straight guy, I get sexually aroused by catfights, especially if clothes get ripped off to expose their goods. Not sure why, but I do. However, no interest whatsoever in UFC/MMA stuff. I find that upsetting, actually.

[slapfan]

"As a straight guy, I get sexually aroused by catfights, especially if clothes get ripped off to expose their goods. Not sure why, but I do. However, no interest whatsoever in UFC/MMA stuff. I find that upsetting, actually."

Facts. I asked my brother once when you think of Woman UFC/MMA  whats the 1st thing that comes to your mind? and........ He said "BRUTAL"
I bust out with laughter because thats the perfect way to describe that shid and the way they be looking after their matches. He has watched some Socal Fights and Suitefights matches with me and was entertained by the catfight matches. Even my cousins like the catfight matches and hate the UFC/MMA shid.

[maxweil]

for me, it's about the confidence - two women standing toe to toe and being confident they can kick each others ass! as long as it's a fair fight, that level of confidence to fight is sexy!

...after they clearly knock an opponent out, they try to out-sprint the ref to the prone loser and get some final shots in ...

think this is just that they're taught to fight until the bell, and not every ref will call it the same way. there's definitely scenarios where it's 100% clear KO though, for those i agree don't keep hitting

[Sandman13]

I think it's all a sexual thing. I always find the loser in the f/f fight the sexiest and it's a definite sexual turn-on for me. I don't think it's about the violence - that is just a path to get where I want the end of the story to go. But it is frowned upon in polite circles and this forum is almost the only place I can discuss it.

[Josephinex]

I'm happy with the thoughts shared so far, thank you all 

I think it's all a sexual thing. I always find the loser in the f/f fight the sexiest and it's a definite sexual turn-on for me. I don't think it's about the violence - that is just a path to get where I want the end of the story to go. But it is frowned upon in polite circles and this forum is almost the only place I can discuss it.

I agree that this can be all seen as a sexual thing, so maybe a better question would be why you (the reader of this comment) personally like catfights/sexfights, like in Sandman13's and Horny-Jew's reply. Maybe then I can find a better answer to my own question

[Bear]

For straight guys, IMHO there is a connection between this fetish and a strong, competitive perhaps combative woman in your past -- most likely your very early years.  Could be an aunt, a sister, but most likely Mom.  I'm no social scientist by any means, but over the years I've read lots and lots of posts, and it seems to me that guys who are into this have this characteristic in common.  That was a good enough explanation for me, and I've found considerable peace in this rationalization. 

Also, we seem to have amazing memories.  I doubt that this is connected in some way, but it certainly appears to be true.     

As far as the type of competition that one prefers, well that my well have to do with the kind of relationship that you had with that woman. 

[suhmann]

It's just something that turns you on sexually. The emotions of a female fight, wrestling, catfight, when two rivals do not see and are not focused on anything other than each other is just a bomb. Plus, when they fight over men, and you know that after a fight with one of them, you will have sex. And whoever made love to a woman after her fight knows how indescribable it is..

[Corvus]

I've always seen the catfight/wrestling/sexfighting thing as something that's transgressive. And men and women find this exciting, because if a woman is so moved to fight, to break these norms, it is fascinating and arousing.

[Led2]

If we all knew the definitive answer none of us would ever ask the question I guess. All I know is that from a very early age, as early as I can remember, ive enjoyed female wrestling and catfighting. It was there from the very beginning as a sexual turn on, there before I ever even saw a picture or a clip of 2 women fighting. What I'm getting at is for me, and I can only speak for myself, I was born with it, it came naturally to me.

[presenterfan]

Born with it sounds right for me too. Girls fighting would excite my mind long before it was possible to excite me physically.   At my age  in the distant past any little spat would suffice,  but with the explosion of material both real and produced  it's possible to pick and choose.    In real fights I hate to see blood and would never wish to see anyone hurt.   In wrestling it has to be competitive.  Two girls going through the motions is as much of a turn off as two ladies really trying to beat each is a turn on.

[colt 45]

I think my enjoyment was due to several strong women in my life though to my knowledge, none fought.  Also, very religious family where the only way you could see an unclothed woman was in the catalogues or wrestling magazines. I think it was also being around a VERY few women who kind of understood.  I remember in eighth grade a girl I knew and had known for years confessed to me she wrestled.  And so it goes.

[popadoc4]

Born with it sounds right for me too. Girls fighting would excite my mind long before it was possible to excite me physically.   At my age  in the distant past any little spat would suffice,  but with the explosion of material both real and produced  it's possible to pick and choose.    In real fights I hate to see blood and would never wish to see anyone hurt.   In wrestling it has to be competitive.  Two girls going through the motions is as much of a turn off as two ladies really trying to beat each is a turn on.

I agree completely, the wrestling has to be competitive! That's what I like about DWW, ASFILM, Festelle. Hard to find anything made like that now.

[lumberjack66]

I think the psychologists explanation that women wrestling or fighting is close to sex is wrong.  My evidence is if we had the chance to see lesbians having sex or watching two women fight we are going to pick the two women fighting.  Of course not all guys are going to do that so maybe there is some crossover from the guys that watch lesbians, but I would say we are a unique and fairly specific fetish.  I have always thought it is a combination of our animal instinct and early sexual experiences.  In my case, long before I saw any pictures of naked women or porn, I saw pictures in magazines of women fighting, gorgeous women in movies and TV fighting, and actual girls fighting.  Those were formative experiences.  For guys who didn't have those experiences perhaps there is something else.  I think what is especially interesting is how into catfights women are.  I think they live a bit vicariously through the fighters themselves and it is a HUGE release.  They are so used to sniping at each other or battling socially that having the ability to actually confront your rival I think is freeing.