It's a turnoff for me if the women fighting appear too trashy

Started by drtheglob, October 28, 2023, 04:21:19 PM

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drtheglob

I like the idea of the "girl next door" (or woman) getting into a fight. The idea feminine/mostly feminine women crossing that taboo of fighting is a significant part of the appeal to me.

I recently saw a fight producer interview fighters before a fight. One fighter was showing her piercings in an "explicit" area. It kind of turned me off. It demystified the girl from appearing as one I'd see at a bar or while food shopping. I didn't like it.

I think many fight producers believe that if they throw in nudity or even sex in a fight video, it can only enhance it. I disagree. I like to believe the women I'm watching fight are the same ones I might see when I'm out food shopping or something.

NoShirtNoShoesNoMercy

While I understand your preference, you also need to understand yours is a minority opinion. Usually what drives sales for catfight/fvf matches is nudity.

Booba makes the simple crowd happy.

HumanPerson

It's not the nudity that's the issue, it's the gross piercings everywhere and the preponderance of shitty tattoos covering large portions of the legs and boobs. Just makes most of the women look cheap instead of sexy.

lid624

I agree that women should look as if they are 'ladies'. While I'm not against nudity in and of itself, I don't want that to be the focus of the action . I'm also not a bid piercing fan . There was a commercial for play station a while back, that showed two women dressed up, with shopping bags that fought right on the street. That is the kind of action I like.

suhmann

Quote from: HumanPerson on October 28, 2023, 07:00:34 PM
It's not the nudity that's the issue, it's the gross piercings everywhere and the preponderance of shitty tattoos covering large portions of the legs and boobs. Just makes most of the women look cheap instead of sexy.
There are no companions for taste and color. But in fact, that's why I love old-school catfights and  submission wrestling, where women with a minimum of tattoos, piercings and plastics. Although it suits some ladies very well.

daz

One of the reasons I preferred older fight videos were because they were about the fight.  They werent as sexualized.   Even Joan Wise matchups which had a big Facesitting element werent as trashy as many of todays releases.   Sorry but if I wanted to watch straight up porn id buy a porn and not a wrestling/fem fight.

HumanPerson

Quote from: daz on October 28, 2023, 10:04:06 PM
One of the reasons I preferred older fight videos were because they were about the fight.  They werent as sexualized.   Even Joan Wise matchups which had a big Facesitting element werent as trashy as many of todays releases.   Sorry but if I wanted to watch straight up porn id buy a porn and not a wrestling/fem fight.

I feel like decently scripted catfights, between two more normal looking women that look like both are trying to win, with "stakes" that aren't as aggressive as the humiliation endings of Ultimate Surrender would be a solid product.

Two women who look like real people and not porn stars, have a catfight with occasional sexual elements like their tits pancaking together while they fight, and the winner gets to do something like have the loser and her boyfriend suck her tits for 5 minutes. It's not crazy, it's not an excuse for a mediocre sexfight or an orgy, and it allows for consequences without rape or bringing out ridiculous torture devices or giant strap on dildos.

I prefer reading about titfights and sexfights, but when watching videos I want catfights or even semi-legitimate looking boxing or wrestling.

Horny-Jew

I like the catfights when the women start out dressed in various different situation clothes (office, dresses, formal, casual, school girls, etc,...) and love clothes to get ripped, so starting out nude doesn't get me as aroused. And not a fan of tattoos & piercings.

Cf_Jam

Quote from: drtheglob on October 28, 2023, 04:21:19 PM
I like the idea of the "girl next door" (or woman) getting into a fight. The idea feminine/mostly feminine women crossing that taboo of fighting is a significant part of the appeal to me.

I recently saw a fight producer interview fighters before a fight. One fighter was showing her piercings in an "explicit" area. It kind of turned me off. It demystified the girl from appearing as one I'd see at a bar or while food shopping. I didn't like it.

I think many fight producers believe that if they throw in nudity or even sex in a fight video, it can only enhance it. I disagree. I like to believe the women I'm watching fight are the same ones I might see when I'm out food shopping or something.

Relatable. Even for me catfight fetish is not just to see any random women compete no matter how wild or sexy but to see how fierce can girls or ladies in regular life can get to establish their supremacy over other in any event of dispute. All other things are just to extract business from fetish.

pinner45

I just want real intensity. They are really into it. Clothing, looks, age, tats, etc., are of secondary importance to me. Just my opinion, but if it isn't real nothing else matters.

roadie

As you can see; there are vastly different opinions on what makes a good girl/ girl fight. Personally, I like nudity in a fight. I prefer wrestling rather than catfighting. To me; I love to see two gorgeous ladies square off on a mat or ring; naked; each girl trying to out maneuver; out smart; out muscle; or out luck her opponent with lots of holds and pins until one eventually succumbs to the other and is forced to submit. Oh, and I hate all body piercings and tattoos. Nipple piercings and clit hardware particularly give me the willies.

wasteland1952

This is a very interesting topic, and as it has been pointed out, there are many different types of fighting styles, dress, and body type that people like to see.

Back in the good ole days....before the internet, aside from movie and tv catfights, the various catfight magazines and old 8 or 16mm films featured two nude or scantilly clad girls rolling over each other.  It was extremely rare to find photos of two girls in an actual fight.  Crystal was a pioneer in featuring "real" women in actual fights.  I guess some people might say some of those girls were "trashy," depending on your point of view.  But they weren't models; they were real girl-next-door women who agreed to meet and fight it out.  And while there were many Crystal fights where the girls fought topless, and even some nude fights, many were also between girls who were clothed, and I found those fight more sexy in many ways.

It seems that the catfight fetish is a pretty big tent, and there's room for just about everyone.

locked

Quote from: wasteland1952 on October 30, 2023, 09:24:23 PM
This is a very interesting topic, and as it has been pointed out, there are many different types of fighting styles, dress, and body type that people like to see.

Back in the good ole days....before the internet, aside from movie and tv catfights, the various catfight magazines and old 8 or 16mm films featured two nude or scantilly clad girls rolling over each other.  It was extremely rare to find photos of two girls in an actual fight.  Crystal was a pioneer in featuring "real" women in actual fights.  I guess some people might say some of those girls were "trashy," depending on your point of view.  But they weren't models; they were real girl-next-door women who agreed to meet and fight it out.  And while there were many Crystal fights where the girls fought topless, and even some nude fights, many were also between girls who were clothed, and I found those fight more sexy in many ways.

It seems that the catfight fetish is a pretty big tent, and there's room for just about everyone.

I remember way back with DWW , Gunther ( the guy behind DWW ) said that there were so many tastes in the female wrestling fetish that nobody would be 100% satisfied with any match, even if it was custom made to their specifications.

Bear

Like you, I find piercings and tattoos to be a complete turn-off.  I don't know if I'd use the term "trashy" to describe it.  For me "trashy" pertains to a type of person, their dress; their personality, etc.  I'd just stick with "totally unappealing."   

Regardless, I'm old, and my demographic doesn't matter anymore.  But I still have the options to watch or not watch, and purchase or not purchase.   I choose "not."