Ladies you're not as strong as men

[jondo53]

Illustrations of mixed fights usually show the girl winning, and I've draw some, but the reality is that girls aren't as tough as men. So I thought I'd illustrate what usually happens when a girl is brave enough to confront a man, i.e. the stronger sex is men. Had to reduce the pic to meet size requirements for forum, it can be seen in its full size glory on my profile.

[rustedone]

http://howtofightwrite.tumblr.com/post/51503513091/tip-women-are-not-weaker-than-men

[jondo53]

Some people are a bit touchy! It wasn't my intention to offend anyone.

[jondo53]

Everyone's a critic.  Just do your thing, man.

Thanks, I intend to. Criticism of my art doesn't bother me, everyone's entitled to their opinion. But I was surprised, very surprised, that a couple of people got angry.

[jondo53]

yeah, well, he is kinda right... though

I think so. I know a women whose a tutor at a women's self-defense class, and she tells women that the best defense is to run. As she says, there are few women, even if trained, who can feel confident about out fighting a man.
In fantasy it's different. Cinema, tv are full of heroines who beat up men, from Emma Peel to Wonder Woman. And plenty of art depicting girls getting the better of men, I've drawn a lot. I just thought, in the interests of equal opertunity, I'd do a drawing where the guy wins.
Nothing sinister, or anti-women. I've drawn girls giving men brutal kicks to the groin, and nobodies ever got angry about it. That's why the fury shown by a couple of people here took me by surprise.

[Nutmeg]

yeah, well, he is kinda right... though

I think so. I know a women whose a tutor at a women's self-defense class, and she tells women that the best defense is to run. As she says, there are few women, even if trained, who can feel confident about out fighting a man.
In fantasy it's different. Cinema, tv are full of heroines who beat up men, from Emma Peel to Wonder Woman. And plenty of art depicting girls getting the better of men, I've drawn a lot. I just thought, in the interests of equal opertunity, I'd do a drawing where the guy wins.
Nothing sinister, or anti-women. I've drawn girls giving men brutal kicks to the groin, and nobodies ever got angry about it. That's why the fury shown by a couple of people here took me by surprise.

Did she also mention that the best defense for men is also to run? If you are in a self defense class you aren't there to learn to kick ass in a competitive fight, you are there to learn SURVIVAL skills. No human should feel confident in any fight with an assailant. If they are trying to rob, rape or otherwise assault you chances are they aren`t coming unarmed. You are being taught to think clearly and escape unharmed.

As far as the reaction, well the vast majority of mixed fans enjoy the battle of the sexes feel and enjoy the undercurrent of sexual tension in those fights and don't care about the realism as long as its fun and hot. These are the men who I have either done mixed with or have entertained the idea of mixed with in a cyber setting.

However, I have also encountered a segment who I believe are into mixed because it lets them beat up women or see women get beat up by men. And I am sure I am not alone in this so its not odd at all that your post might have drawn some ire. Not saying that YOU are like that but given that segment exists it should not be shocking that your post might make you seem like that might be your thing. Sort of like being into interracial fights where rich white people beat up poor black people. It may have no basis in racism, but don't be shocked if you draw a few HMMMMs.

[nova1274]

Eventhough we all know that black people whip white peoples asses anyways. Good example though =/

[MarissaFights]

now you know why we get annoyed at the persistent men looking for mixed,its unrealistic,thankyou,youve hit the nail on the head

[The BIG E]

Eventhough we all know that black people whip white peoples asses anyways. Good example though =/

Lol. True dat

[jondo53]

yeah, well, he is kinda right... though

I think so. I know a women whose a tutor at a women's self-defense class, and she tells women that the best defense is to run. As she says, there are few women, even if trained, who can feel confident about out fighting a man.
In fantasy it's different. Cinema, tv are full of heroines who beat up men, from Emma Peel to Wonder Woman. And plenty of art depicting girls getting the better of men, I've drawn a lot. I just thought, in the interests of equal opertunity, I'd do a drawing where the guy wins.
Nothing sinister, or anti-women. I've drawn girls giving men brutal kicks to the groin, and nobodies ever got angry about it. That's why the fury shown by a couple of people here took me by surprise.

Did she also mention that the best defense for men is also to run? If you are in a self defense class you aren't there to learn to kick ass in a competitive fight, you are there to learn SURVIVAL skills. No human should feel confident in any fight with an assailant. If they are trying to rob, rape or otherwise assault you chances are they aren`t coming unarmed. You are being taught to think clearly and escape unharmed.

As far as the reaction, well the vast majority of mixed fans enjoy the battle of the sexes feel and enjoy the undercurrent of sexual tension in those fights and don't care about the realism as long as its fun and hot. These are the men who I have either done mixed with or have entertained the idea of mixed with in a cyber setting.

However, I have also encountered a segment who I believe are into mixed because it lets them beat up women or see women get beat up by men. And I am sure I am not alone in this so its not odd at all that your post might have drawn some ire. Not saying that YOU are like that but given that segment exists it should not be shocking that your post might make you seem like that might be your thing. Sort of like being into interracial fights where rich white people beat up poor black people. It may have no basis in racism, but don't be shocked if you draw a few HMMMMs.

Point about self-defense taken, but that doesn't change the fact that few women would have much chance against a man.

Well there are certainly people of both sexes who enjoy being beat up by the opposite sex, or fantasizing it, I've been commissioned to do art for quite a few, including commissions from women. I've also had commissions from women whose fantasy is to be beat up by another women. There are people of both sexes with these desires on this forum, and their not hard to find.
And I wouldn't call my art exceptionally violent compared to much I've seen here, and it certainly isn't by the standards of popular culture. James Bond films, for example, always have many killings, by various methods that have included people being burnt to death or mangled in machinery. Nothing I've drawn is anywhere near as gruesome as that.

I have a feeling that had I posted an illustration of a man on the receiving end of blows from a woman the reaction would have been milder. I'm not taking issue with people expressing their opinion, but I think some are reading into this something that isn't actually there. 

[jondo53]

now you know why we get annoyed at the persistent men looking for mixed,its unrealistic,thankyou,youve hit the nail on the head

Agreed.

[jondo53]

I'm not angry at all. It is just, well, your picture sucks. Learn something about proportion.

Fair enough. But my art sells, and when people hand over cash for your work you know you're doing something right.

[Nutmeg]

yeah, well, he is kinda right... though

I think so. I know a women whose a tutor at a women's self-defense class, and she tells women that the best defense is to run. As she says, there are few women, even if trained, who can feel confident about out fighting a man.
In fantasy it's different. Cinema, tv are full of heroines who beat up men, from Emma Peel to Wonder Woman. And plenty of art depicting girls getting the better of men, I've drawn a lot. I just thought, in the interests of equal opertunity, I'd do a drawing where the guy wins.
Nothing sinister, or anti-women. I've drawn girls giving men brutal kicks to the groin, and nobodies ever got angry about it. That's why the fury shown by a couple of people here took me by surprise.

Did she also mention that the best defense for men is also to run? If you are in a self defense class you aren't there to learn to kick ass in a competitive fight, you are there to learn SURVIVAL skills. No human should feel confident in any fight with an assailant. If they are trying to rob, rape or otherwise assault you chances are they aren`t coming unarmed. You are being taught to think clearly and escape unharmed.

As far as the reaction, well the vast majority of mixed fans enjoy the battle of the sexes feel and enjoy the undercurrent of sexual tension in those fights and don't care about the realism as long as its fun and hot. These are the men who I have either done mixed with or have entertained the idea of mixed with in a cyber setting.

However, I have also encountered a segment who I believe are into mixed because it lets them beat up women or see women get beat up by men. And I am sure I am not alone in this so its not odd at all that your post might have drawn some ire. Not saying that YOU are like that but given that segment exists it should not be shocking that your post might make you seem like that might be your thing. Sort of like being into interracial fights where rich white people beat up poor black people. It may have no basis in racism, but don't be shocked if you draw a few HMMMMs.

Point about self-defense taken, but that doesn't change the fact that few women would have much chance against a man.

Well there are certainly people of both sexes who enjoy being beat up by the opposite sex, or fantasizing it, I've been commissioned to do art for quite a few, including commissions from women. I've also had commissions from women whose fantasy is to be beat up by another women. There are people of both sexes with these desires on this forum, and their not hard to find.
And I wouldn't call my art exceptionally violent compared to much I've seen here, and it certainly isn't by the standards of popular culture. James Bond films, for example, always have many killings, by various methods that have included people being burnt to death or mangled in machinery. Nothing I've drawn is anywhere near as gruesome as that.

I have a feeling that had I posted an illustration of a man on the receiving end of blows from a woman the reaction would have been milder. I'm not taking issue with people expressing their opinion, but I think some are reading into this something that isn't actually there. 

There is no fact being stated, just a wide ranging opinion which ignores a lot of variables. Under your questionable logic the 130 lbs man should be mopping the floor with any woman no matter the size and experience. In ONE hard blow to the groin most men are on the ground. Their mere maleness is hardly a grand advantage. And the picture had nothing to do with the ire, in fact I would not have even realized it was a man hitting a woman based on the picture alone. It was the he-man BS that framed the picture. If that had been posted with the "just felt like doing something different and being equal opportunity since I do a lot of women beating on guys pics" the only criticism would be art based.

[10count]

Fembox357 hit the nail head. Just do your thing. Your one of the few people even producing catfight stories in freehand anymore. The fact you write and complete the work earns you an attaboy! So keep on doing what you do and as far as your art goes my wife and I enjoy your style . It is unique, simple and original. If I want perfect proportions and shading I'll stare at some Poser models. Your stories are fun and at least you have a style, it may not be to everyone's liking but neither are catfights.

[jondo53]

yeah, well, he is kinda right... though

I think so. I know a women whose a tutor at a women's self-defense class, and she tells women that the best defense is to run. As she says, there are few women, even if trained, who can feel confident about out fighting a man.
In fantasy it's different. Cinema, tv are full of heroines who beat up men, from Emma Peel to Wonder Woman. And plenty of art depicting girls getting the better of men, I've drawn a lot. I just thought, in the interests of equal opertunity, I'd do a drawing where the guy wins.
Nothing sinister, or anti-women. I've drawn girls giving men brutal kicks to the groin, and nobodies ever got angry about it. That's why the fury shown by a couple of people here took me by surprise.

Did she also mention that the best defense for men is also to run? If you are in a self defense class you aren't there to learn to kick ass in a competitive fight, you are there to learn SURVIVAL skills. No human should feel confident in any fight with an assailant. If they are trying to rob, rape or otherwise assault you chances are they aren`t coming unarmed. You are being taught to think clearly and escape unharmed.

As far as the reaction, well the vast majority of mixed fans enjoy the battle of the sexes feel and enjoy the undercurrent of sexual tension in those fights and don't care about the realism as long as its fun and hot. These are the men who I have either done mixed with or have entertained the idea of mixed with in a cyber setting.

However, I have also encountered a segment who I believe are into mixed because it lets them beat up women or see women get beat up by men. And I am sure I am not alone in this so its not odd at all that your post might have drawn some ire. Not saying that YOU are like that but given that segment exists it should not be shocking that your post might make you seem like that might be your thing. Sort of like being into interracial fights where rich white people beat up poor black people. It may have no basis in racism, but don't be shocked if you draw a few HMMMMs.

Point about self-defense taken, but that doesn't change the fact that few women would have much chance against a man.

Well there are certainly people of both sexes who enjoy being beat up by the opposite sex, or fantasizing it, I've been commissioned to do art for quite a few, including commissions from women. I've also had commissions from women whose fantasy is to be beat up by another women. There are people of both sexes with these desires on this forum, and their not hard to find.
And I wouldn't call my art exceptionally violent compared to much I've seen here, and it certainly isn't by the standards of popular culture. James Bond films, for example, always have many killings, by various methods that have included people being burnt to death or mangled in machinery. Nothing I've drawn is anywhere near as gruesome as that.

I have a feeling that had I posted an illustration of a man on the receiving end of blows from a woman the reaction would have been milder. I'm not taking issue with people expressing their opinion, but I think some are reading into this something that isn't actually there. 

There is no fact being stated, just a wide ranging opinion which ignores a lot of variables. Under your questionable logic the 130 lbs man should be mopping the floor with any woman no matter the size and experience. In ONE hard blow to the groin most men are on the ground. Their mere maleness is hardly a grand advantage. And the picture had nothing to do with the ire, in fact I would not have even realized it was a man hitting a woman based on the picture alone. It was the he-man BS that framed the picture. If that had been posted with the "just felt like doing something different and being equal opportunity since I do a lot of women beating on guys pics" the only criticism would be art based.

Is it not a fact that most, note the word most, women would stand little chance in a fight with a man?