I have often encountered a plot where a man arranges a duel between women. These can be a wife and a mistress, two mistresses or candidates for the role of a girlfriend. He sets a condition that he will stay with the winner. The loser must leave. This is literature, fantasy. How are things in real life? Girls, women, please write, would you fight for a man if he demanded it of you?
I mean, specifically the man's initiative. Not the situation when you decide to confront some bitch yourself.
Quote from: Olga on September 15, 2025, 02:04:29 PM
I have often encountered a plot where a man arranges a duel between women. These can be a wife and a mistress, two mistresses or candidates for the role of a girlfriend. He sets a condition that he will stay with the winner. The loser must leave. This is literature, fantasy. How are things in real life? Girls, women, please write, would you fight for a man if he demanded it of you?
I mean, specifically the man's initiative. Not the situation when you decide to confront some bitch yourself.
Of course I would fight. If he presented me with another woman who wanted to take my place, I would be ready for a fight for all or nothing. He can also set the rules and what clothes we should or shouldn't wear.
There are only 2 rules:
1) Each woman must wear a buttoned down shirt or blouse (and no bra).
2) Each woman must be barefoot.
;D ;D ;D
Would i fight another woman if told to do so by a man? Clearly not. I would fight another woman but not at anyones say so, that would be between me and the other bitch.
The only way i could see that happening is if the guy is paying for the fight and even then my answer would be NO!!
This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Quote from: Olga on September 15, 2025, 02:04:29 PM
I have often encountered a plot where a man arranges a duel between women. These can be a wife and a mistress, two mistresses or candidates for the role of a girlfriend. He sets a condition that he will stay with the winner. The loser must leave. This is literature, fantasy. How are things in real life? Girls, women, please write, would you fight for a man if he demanded it of you?
I mean, specifically the man's initiative. Not the situation when you decide to confront some bitch yourself.
So Olga, what would be your answer to this question?
Xoxo
Kate
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:01:51 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 10:18:22 AM
This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:45:31 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:01:51 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 10:18:22 AM
This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Hi Kate.
I was going crazy for about a week. All this time I continued to wind myself up. Finally I decided to talk to Liz. But it turned out that she blocked me on all her social networks and her phone number also became unavailable to me. Then I stopped doubting, I decided that since she was hiding, it meant it was all true and she was a bitch and a traitor. I told Victoria that I was going to meet Liz and tell her face to face everything I thought about her. Victoria started begging me not to do it. She is very sweet and she didn't want Liz and I to fight. The situation was heating up. A certain Christina appeared, introduced herself as my friend and said a bunch of nasty things to Liz, allegedly on my behalf. This Christina also started to set Victoria against me. I told Victoria that I don't know any Christina and have never met her. Here I had doubts. I don't know any Kristina, and she says that she is my friend. Clearly someone is trying to make us quarrel. Then I decided to take a desperate step. I waylaid Liz when she was returning from work. When she saw me, she panicked, she thought I was going to fight her. But I just wanted to talk. We went to a cafe and told each other everything. And as soon as we started talking, all the lies that Andrey had woven fell apart like a house of cards. This Andrey tried to court me earlier. But I turned him down. Then he started hitting on Victoria, but she also turned him down. He decided it was because of me and tried to get revenge on me by pitting me against Liz. He really wanted us to fight. And he almost succeeded.
Well then Alexandra...I sincerely hope the three of you got the word out to all your friends and they passed out this story to theirs. As with any luck you three could successfully trash his reputation so much... the fucker would not be able to get a date with his right hand! Let alone a sweet and sexy girl like you :)
Xoxo
Kate
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:45:31 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:01:51 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 10:18:22 AM
This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Hi Kate.
I was going crazy for about a week. All this time I continued to wind myself up. Finally I decided to talk to Liz. But it turned out that she blocked me on all her social networks and her phone number also became unavailable to me. Then I stopped doubting, I decided that since she was hiding, it meant it was all true and she was a bitch and a traitor. I told Victoria that I was going to meet Liz and tell her face to face everything I thought about her. Victoria started begging me not to do it. She is very sweet and she didn't want Liz and I to fight. The situation was heating up. A certain Christina appeared, introduced herself as my friend and said a bunch of nasty things to Liz, allegedly on my behalf. This Christina also started to set Victoria against me. I told Victoria that I don't know any Christina and have never met her. Here I had doubts. I don't know any Kristina, and she says that she is my friend. Clearly someone is trying to make us quarrel. Then I decided to take a desperate step. I waylaid Liz when she was returning from work. When she saw me, she panicked, she thought I was going to fight her. But I just wanted to talk. We went to a cafe and told each other everything. And as soon as we started talking, all the lies that Andrey had woven fell apart like a house of cards. This Andrey tried to court me earlier. But I turned him down. Then he started hitting on Victoria, but she also turned him down. He decided it was because of me and tried to get revenge on me by pitting me against Liz. He really wanted us to fight. And he almost succeeded.
Hi Alexandra.
I'm glad this worked out for you so you didn't have to fight. I know i fantasize about seeing women in catfights all the time, but it's just fantasy, I would never actually act on it. That would just be so wrong of me. :)
Hope you are well.
I've often asked this question to people I know in real life and the answer has always been negative. Many were outraged by the very idea of ??such a thing. So, overall, I'm not surprised by your reaction.
Quote from: Olga on September 16, 2025, 01:46:32 PM
I've often asked this question to people I know in real life and the answer has always been negative. Many were outraged by the very idea of ??such a thing. So, overall, I'm not surprised by your reaction.
But Olga what about you? Would you say yes or say no? I'm super curious now to know :o
Xoxo
Kate
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 01:52:56 PM
Quote from: Olga on September 16, 2025, 01:46:32 PM
I've often asked this question to people I know in real life and the answer has always been negative. Many were outraged by the very idea of ??such a thing. So, overall, I'm not surprised by your reaction.
But Olga what about you? Would you say yes or say no? I'm super curious now to know :o
Xoxo
Kate
No. I believe that the very fact that a man asks such a question indicates that he does not respect you. After all, a fight doesn't show which of two women is better, which is smarter, more interesting, more beautiful, more passionate in bed. A fight only determines who fights better. That's all. A man knows this very well, unless he is an idiot, of course. And if he offers you something like this, then he is only interested in the spectacle, and not in you yourself. That's what I think.
Quote from: Olga on September 16, 2025, 02:08:03 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 01:52:56 PM
Quote from: Olga on September 16, 2025, 01:46:32 PM
I've often asked this question to people I know in real life and the answer has always been negative. Many were outraged by the very idea of ??such a thing. So, overall, I'm not surprised by your reaction.
But Olga what about you? Would you say yes or say no? I'm super curious now to know :o
Xoxo
Kate
No. I believe that the very fact that a man asks such a question indicates that he does not respect you. After all, a fight doesn't show which of two women is better, which is smarter, more interesting, more beautiful, more passionate in bed. A fight only determines who fights better. That's all. A man knows this very well, unless he is an idiot, of course. And if he offers you something like this, then he is only interested in the spectacle, and not in you yourself. That's what I think.
Perfect answer Olga :)
One of my personal heroes is Joan Wise' husband. His 2nd wife beat his 1st wife in a fight and then Joan beat her to become his 3rd wife. Then they turned it into their family business.
I have fights on like that but on my terms
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:45:31 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:01:51 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 10:18:22 AM
This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Hi Kate.
I was going crazy for about a week. All this time I continued to wind myself up. Finally I decided to talk to Liz. But it turned out that she blocked me on all her social networks and her phone number also became unavailable to me. Then I stopped doubting, I decided that since she was hiding, it meant it was all true and she was a bitch and a traitor. I told Victoria that I was going to meet Liz and tell her face to face everything I thought about her. Victoria started begging me not to do it. She is very sweet and she didn't want Liz and I to fight. The situation was heating up. A certain Christina appeared, introduced herself as my friend and said a bunch of nasty things to Liz, allegedly on my behalf. This Christina also started to set Victoria against me. I told Victoria that I don't know any Christina and have never met her. Here I had doubts. I don't know any Kristina, and she says that she is my friend. Clearly someone is trying to make us quarrel. Then I decided to take a desperate step. I waylaid Liz when she was returning from work. When she saw me, she panicked, she thought I was going to fight her. But I just wanted to talk. We went to a cafe and told each other everything. And as soon as we started talking, all the lies that Andrey had woven fell apart like a house of cards. This Andrey tried to court me earlier. But I turned him down. Then he started hitting on Victoria, but she also turned him down. He decided it was because of me and tried to get revenge on me by pitting me against Liz. He really wanted us to fight. And he almost succeeded.
Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago, but it wasn't a man who pitted us against each other it was a woman and she succeeded I fought my friend now exfriend because of that bitch, it honestly sucks when something like that happens.
Quote from: Broken Valkyrie on September 17, 2025, 03:03:45 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:45:31 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:01:51 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 10:18:22 AM
This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Hi Kate.
I was going crazy for about a week. All this time I continued to wind myself up. Finally I decided to talk to Liz. But it turned out that she blocked me on all her social networks and her phone number also became unavailable to me. Then I stopped doubting, I decided that since she was hiding, it meant it was all true and she was a bitch and a traitor. I told Victoria that I was going to meet Liz and tell her face to face everything I thought about her. Victoria started begging me not to do it. She is very sweet and she didn't want Liz and I to fight. The situation was heating up. A certain Christina appeared, introduced herself as my friend and said a bunch of nasty things to Liz, allegedly on my behalf. This Christina also started to set Victoria against me. I told Victoria that I don't know any Christina and have never met her. Here I had doubts. I don't know any Kristina, and she says that she is my friend. Clearly someone is trying to make us quarrel. Then I decided to take a desperate step. I waylaid Liz when she was returning from work. When she saw me, she panicked, she thought I was going to fight her. But I just wanted to talk. We went to a cafe and told each other everything. And as soon as we started talking, all the lies that Andrey had woven fell apart like a house of cards. This Andrey tried to court me earlier. But I turned him down. Then he started hitting on Victoria, but she also turned him down. He decided it was because of me and tried to get revenge on me by pitting me against Liz. He really wanted us to fight. And he almost succeeded.
Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago, but it wasn't a man who pitted us against each other it was a woman and she succeeded I fought my friend now exfriend because of that bitch, it honestly sucks when something like that happens.
I would say us girls are potentially worse than the boys for doing this...however that is just my opinion.
Quote from: caryn1 on September 17, 2025, 02:05:18 AM
I have fights on like that but on my terms
What are these terms? Can you tell me what you mean?
Quote from: Broken Valkyrie on September 17, 2025, 03:03:45 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:45:31 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:01:51 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 10:18:22 AM
This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Hi Kate.
I was going crazy for about a week. All this time I continued to wind myself up. Finally I decided to talk to Liz. But it turned out that she blocked me on all her social networks and her phone number also became unavailable to me. Then I stopped doubting, I decided that since she was hiding, it meant it was all true and she was a bitch and a traitor. I told Victoria that I was going to meet Liz and tell her face to face everything I thought about her. Victoria started begging me not to do it. She is very sweet and she didn't want Liz and I to fight. The situation was heating up. A certain Christina appeared, introduced herself as my friend and said a bunch of nasty things to Liz, allegedly on my behalf. This Christina also started to set Victoria against me. I told Victoria that I don't know any Christina and have never met her. Here I had doubts. I don't know any Kristina, and she says that she is my friend. Clearly someone is trying to make us quarrel. Then I decided to take a desperate step. I waylaid Liz when she was returning from work. When she saw me, she panicked, she thought I was going to fight her. But I just wanted to talk. We went to a cafe and told each other everything. And as soon as we started talking, all the lies that Andrey had woven fell apart like a house of cards. This Andrey tried to court me earlier. But I turned him down. Then he started hitting on Victoria, but she also turned him down. He decided it was because of me and tried to get revenge on me by pitting me against Liz. He really wanted us to fight. And he almost succeeded.
Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago, but it wasn't a man who pitted us against each other it was a woman and she succeeded I fought my friend now exfriend because of that bitch, it honestly sucks when something like that happens.
Probably every girl had such a "friend" who spread gossip and provoked conflicts.
Quote from: Olga on September 17, 2025, 01:23:28 PM
Quote from: Broken Valkyrie on September 17, 2025, 03:03:45 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:45:31 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:01:51 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 10:18:22 AM
This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Hi Kate.
I was going crazy for about a week. All this time I continued to wind myself up. Finally I decided to talk to Liz. But it turned out that she blocked me on all her social networks and her phone number also became unavailable to me. Then I stopped doubting, I decided that since she was hiding, it meant it was all true and she was a bitch and a traitor. I told Victoria that I was going to meet Liz and tell her face to face everything I thought about her. Victoria started begging me not to do it. She is very sweet and she didn't want Liz and I to fight. The situation was heating up. A certain Christina appeared, introduced herself as my friend and said a bunch of nasty things to Liz, allegedly on my behalf. This Christina also started to set Victoria against me. I told Victoria that I don't know any Christina and have never met her. Here I had doubts. I don't know any Kristina, and she says that she is my friend. Clearly someone is trying to make us quarrel. Then I decided to take a desperate step. I waylaid Liz when she was returning from work. When she saw me, she panicked, she thought I was going to fight her. But I just wanted to talk. We went to a cafe and told each other everything. And as soon as we started talking, all the lies that Andrey had woven fell apart like a house of cards. This Andrey tried to court me earlier. But I turned him down. Then he started hitting on Victoria, but she also turned him down. He decided it was because of me and tried to get revenge on me by pitting me against Liz. He really wanted us to fight. And he almost succeeded.
Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago, but it wasn't a man who pitted us against each other it was a woman and she succeeded I fought my friend now exfriend because of that bitch, it honestly sucks when something like that happens.
Probably every girl had such a "friend" who spread gossip and provoked conflicts.
This is true, well at least in my experience. I've seen it in the workplace, seen it while at university and I saw it amongst my circle of friends.
I suppose the question is now then: is this a legitimate tactic us girls should use? Would you for example look down on someone if say she used said tactic to trick two girls who you didn't like into fighting?
And for the record, I've not done this myself but I've seen it done and honestly I was delighted with the results :)
Great comments by Olga, Kate, Alexandra and Erin. To be expected to, or tricked into a fight with another woman for someone else's entertainment is totally disrespectful of women. In my own case, I had fights with another woman because I wanted to experience it, and the only other people involved were two other women to intercede if the fight got out of hand. I get the idea that many men (and women) find fights between women exciting, but it's not something that should be inflicted on women by those looking for a thrill. If two women desire to fight for whatever reason, it should be their choice, and theirs alone.
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 17, 2025, 01:47:33 PM
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Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 16, 2025, 11:01:51 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 16, 2025, 10:18:22 AM
This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Hi Kate.
I was going crazy for about a week. All this time I continued to wind myself up. Finally I decided to talk to Liz. But it turned out that she blocked me on all her social networks and her phone number also became unavailable to me. Then I stopped doubting, I decided that since she was hiding, it meant it was all true and she was a bitch and a traitor. I told Victoria that I was going to meet Liz and tell her face to face everything I thought about her. Victoria started begging me not to do it. She is very sweet and she didn't want Liz and I to fight. The situation was heating up. A certain Christina appeared, introduced herself as my friend and said a bunch of nasty things to Liz, allegedly on my behalf. This Christina also started to set Victoria against me. I told Victoria that I don't know any Christina and have never met her. Here I had doubts. I don't know any Kristina, and she says that she is my friend. Clearly someone is trying to make us quarrel. Then I decided to take a desperate step. I waylaid Liz when she was returning from work. When she saw me, she panicked, she thought I was going to fight her. But I just wanted to talk. We went to a cafe and told each other everything. And as soon as we started talking, all the lies that Andrey had woven fell apart like a house of cards. This Andrey tried to court me earlier. But I turned him down. Then he started hitting on Victoria, but she also turned him down. He decided it was because of me and tried to get revenge on me by pitting me against Liz. He really wanted us to fight. And he almost succeeded.
Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago, but it wasn't a man who pitted us against each other it was a woman and she succeeded I fought my friend now exfriend because of that bitch, it honestly sucks when something like that happens.
Probably every girl had such a "friend" who spread gossip and provoked conflicts.
This is true, well at least in my experience. I've seen it in the workplace, seen it while at university and I saw it amongst my circle of friends.
I suppose the question is now then: is this a legitimate tactic us girls should use? Would you for example look down on someone if say she used said tactic to trick two girls who you didn't like into fighting?
And for the record, I've not done this myself but I've seen it done and honestly I was delighted with the results :)
In my experience, girls often like it when men fight over them. I've seen this many times. As for girls, it's more about arguments than fights. Although, anything can happen.
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This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Hi Kate.
I was going crazy for about a week. All this time I continued to wind myself up. Finally I decided to talk to Liz. But it turned out that she blocked me on all her social networks and her phone number also became unavailable to me. Then I stopped doubting, I decided that since she was hiding, it meant it was all true and she was a bitch and a traitor. I told Victoria that I was going to meet Liz and tell her face to face everything I thought about her. Victoria started begging me not to do it. She is very sweet and she didn't want Liz and I to fight. The situation was heating up. A certain Christina appeared, introduced herself as my friend and said a bunch of nasty things to Liz, allegedly on my behalf. This Christina also started to set Victoria against me. I told Victoria that I don't know any Christina and have never met her. Here I had doubts. I don't know any Kristina, and she says that she is my friend. Clearly someone is trying to make us quarrel. Then I decided to take a desperate step. I waylaid Liz when she was returning from work. When she saw me, she panicked, she thought I was going to fight her. But I just wanted to talk. We went to a cafe and told each other everything. And as soon as we started talking, all the lies that Andrey had woven fell apart like a house of cards. This Andrey tried to court me earlier. But I turned him down. Then he started hitting on Victoria, but she also turned him down. He decided it was because of me and tried to get revenge on me by pitting me against Liz. He really wanted us to fight. And he almost succeeded.
Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago, but it wasn't a man who pitted us against each other it was a woman and she succeeded I fought my friend now exfriend because of that bitch, it honestly sucks when something like that happens.
Probably every girl had such a "friend" who spread gossip and provoked conflicts.
This is true, well at least in my experience. I've seen it in the workplace, seen it while at university and I saw it amongst my circle of friends.
I suppose the question is now then: is this a legitimate tactic us girls should use? Would you for example look down on someone if say she used said tactic to trick two girls who you didn't like into fighting?
And for the record, I've not done this myself but I've seen it done and honestly I was delighted with the results :)
In my experience, girls often like it when men fight over them. I've seen this many times. As for girls, it's more about arguments than fights. Although, anything can happen.
I've never been a huge fan of fighting over people or being fought over. However if pushed my preference would be to have two girls fighting over me. But if they did, they need to understand that the result is meaningless. I refuse to be a trophy.
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This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Hi Kate.
I was going crazy for about a week. All this time I continued to wind myself up. Finally I decided to talk to Liz. But it turned out that she blocked me on all her social networks and her phone number also became unavailable to me. Then I stopped doubting, I decided that since she was hiding, it meant it was all true and she was a bitch and a traitor. I told Victoria that I was going to meet Liz and tell her face to face everything I thought about her. Victoria started begging me not to do it. She is very sweet and she didn't want Liz and I to fight. The situation was heating up. A certain Christina appeared, introduced herself as my friend and said a bunch of nasty things to Liz, allegedly on my behalf. This Christina also started to set Victoria against me. I told Victoria that I don't know any Christina and have never met her. Here I had doubts. I don't know any Kristina, and she says that she is my friend. Clearly someone is trying to make us quarrel. Then I decided to take a desperate step. I waylaid Liz when she was returning from work. When she saw me, she panicked, she thought I was going to fight her. But I just wanted to talk. We went to a cafe and told each other everything. And as soon as we started talking, all the lies that Andrey had woven fell apart like a house of cards. This Andrey tried to court me earlier. But I turned him down. Then he started hitting on Victoria, but she also turned him down. He decided it was because of me and tried to get revenge on me by pitting me against Liz. He really wanted us to fight. And he almost succeeded.
Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago, but it wasn't a man who pitted us against each other it was a woman and she succeeded I fought my friend now exfriend because of that bitch, it honestly sucks when something like that happens.
Probably every girl had such a "friend" who spread gossip and provoked conflicts.
This is true, well at least in my experience. I've seen it in the workplace, seen it while at university and I saw it amongst my circle of friends.
I suppose the question is now then: is this a legitimate tactic us girls should use? Would you for example look down on someone if say she used said tactic to trick two girls who you didn't like into fighting?
And for the record, I've not done this myself but I've seen it done and honestly I was delighted with the results :)
I understand. I'm ashamed to admit it, but I'd love to see Liz fight Anna. Of course, I won't do anything, but if someone else forced them to fight, I'd enjoy watching.
Watching two bitches who you don't like... or even better two bitches who you're obliged to pretend you do like. However secretly hate tear chunks out of each other is fun.
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This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Hi Kate.
I was going crazy for about a week. All this time I continued to wind myself up. Finally I decided to talk to Liz. But it turned out that she blocked me on all her social networks and her phone number also became unavailable to me. Then I stopped doubting, I decided that since she was hiding, it meant it was all true and she was a bitch and a traitor. I told Victoria that I was going to meet Liz and tell her face to face everything I thought about her. Victoria started begging me not to do it. She is very sweet and she didn't want Liz and I to fight. The situation was heating up. A certain Christina appeared, introduced herself as my friend and said a bunch of nasty things to Liz, allegedly on my behalf. This Christina also started to set Victoria against me. I told Victoria that I don't know any Christina and have never met her. Here I had doubts. I don't know any Kristina, and she says that she is my friend. Clearly someone is trying to make us quarrel. Then I decided to take a desperate step. I waylaid Liz when she was returning from work. When she saw me, she panicked, she thought I was going to fight her. But I just wanted to talk. We went to a cafe and told each other everything. And as soon as we started talking, all the lies that Andrey had woven fell apart like a house of cards. This Andrey tried to court me earlier. But I turned him down. Then he started hitting on Victoria, but she also turned him down. He decided it was because of me and tried to get revenge on me by pitting me against Liz. He really wanted us to fight. And he almost succeeded.
Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago, but it wasn't a man who pitted us against each other it was a woman and she succeeded I fought my friend now exfriend because of that bitch, it honestly sucks when something like that happens.
Probably every girl had such a "friend" who spread gossip and provoked conflicts.
This is true, well at least in my experience. I've seen it in the workplace, seen it while at university and I saw it amongst my circle of friends.
I suppose the question is now then: is this a legitimate tactic us girls should use? Would you for example look down on someone if say she used said tactic to trick two girls who you didn't like into fighting?
And for the record, I've not done this myself but I've seen it done and honestly I was delighted with the results :)
In my experience, girls often like it when men fight over them. I've seen this many times. As for girls, it's more about arguments than fights. Although, anything can happen.
I've never been a huge fan of fighting over people or being fought over. However if pushed my preference would be to have two girls fighting over me. But if they did, they need to understand that the result is meaningless. I refuse to be a trophy.
What do you mean? Two girls are fighting over you, but you refuse to be a trophy, and then why would they fight? Well, if they don't get anything?
Why would they fight? Well for starters I'm a cutie :)
But my bad jokes aside, as a species we don't need much of an excuse to fight do we? And just because two cute girls decided that the winner gets me, doesn't mean I should be beholden to their decision?
Bottom line - I don't like people who think they can make decisions about me, without my input. And to put it bluntly the chances of me asking two cute girls to fight over me and then saying I will date the winner is infinitesimal. It's not in my nature.
So yes, I would love to watch to cute girls tear chunks out of each other over me. But I will never ask them to do it and if they decide unilaterally to fight over me, that's fine. Just don't expect me to hand myself off to the winner as their trophy.
Go get me Alexandra?
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He sets a condition that he will stay with the winner.
If my boyfriend suggests it to me, then I will immediately tell him to go to hell and break up with him. And after that, not in front of him, I'll try to kick that bitch's ass.
But I'm ready to fight against a bitch in front of my boyfriend for another prize for the winner, like money.
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This scenario in my opinion is obscene and peak male fantasy. No way in hell would I ever allow myself to be used and manipulated like this. In this scenario I would roll my eyes, punch the bastard in his face and leave. I would also encourage my would be rival to do the same. Catfighting is not a fucking sport people, it is violent and nasty, the risks are extremely real. Its not something to do on a whim or for the entertainment of others, at least that is my opinion.
Now if in this scenario the man (and I use the term loosely) were to offer a cash prize for a catfight? I would still personally say hell no, however I can at least understand why other women would say yes.
Hugz and kisses
Kate
Last summer, something happened to me. I was in a bad relationship with my friend Liz at the time. And one asshole decided to take advantage of that. He said a bunch of nasty things to her, supposedly on my behalf. Said that I was spreading nasty rumors about her, that she was a whore and all that. I didn't talk to this idiot myself, but he, through our mutual friend Victoria, told me that Liz had told everyone about my stepfather and a lot of other things. I was furious. Liz was also furious. We were ready to kill each other. And the damn asshole rubbed his hands and beamed with happiness.
Hi Alexandra,
What a fucking bastard!
However did this damned asshole get want he wanted or were you and Liz able to make peace and see through his lies and manipulation?
Xoxo
Kate
Hi Kate.
I was going crazy for about a week. All this time I continued to wind myself up. Finally I decided to talk to Liz. But it turned out that she blocked me on all her social networks and her phone number also became unavailable to me. Then I stopped doubting, I decided that since she was hiding, it meant it was all true and she was a bitch and a traitor. I told Victoria that I was going to meet Liz and tell her face to face everything I thought about her. Victoria started begging me not to do it. She is very sweet and she didn't want Liz and I to fight. The situation was heating up. A certain Christina appeared, introduced herself as my friend and said a bunch of nasty things to Liz, allegedly on my behalf. This Christina also started to set Victoria against me. I told Victoria that I don't know any Christina and have never met her. Here I had doubts. I don't know any Kristina, and she says that she is my friend. Clearly someone is trying to make us quarrel. Then I decided to take a desperate step. I waylaid Liz when she was returning from work. When she saw me, she panicked, she thought I was going to fight her. But I just wanted to talk. We went to a cafe and told each other everything. And as soon as we started talking, all the lies that Andrey had woven fell apart like a house of cards. This Andrey tried to court me earlier. But I turned him down. Then he started hitting on Victoria, but she also turned him down. He decided it was because of me and tried to get revenge on me by pitting me against Liz. He really wanted us to fight. And he almost succeeded.
Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago, but it wasn't a man who pitted us against each other it was a woman and she succeeded I fought my friend now exfriend because of that bitch, it honestly sucks when something like that happens.
Probably every girl had such a "friend" who spread gossip and provoked conflicts.
This is true, well at least in my experience. I've seen it in the workplace, seen it while at university and I saw it amongst my circle of friends.
I suppose the question is now then: is this a legitimate tactic us girls should use? Would you for example look down on someone if say she used said tactic to trick two girls who you didn't like into fighting?
And for the record, I've not done this myself but I've seen it done and honestly I was delighted with the results :)
In my experience, girls often like it when men fight over them. I've seen this many times. As for girls, it's more about arguments than fights. Although, anything can happen.
I've never been a huge fan of fighting over people or being fought over. However if pushed my preference would be to have two girls fighting over me. But if they did, they need to understand that the result is meaningless. I refuse to be a trophy.
What do you mean? Two girls are fighting over you, but you refuse to be a trophy, and then why would they fight? Well, if they don't get anything?
Why would they fight? Well for starters I'm a cutie :)
But my bad jokes aside, as a species we don't need much of an excuse to fight do we? And just because two cute girls decided that the winner gets me, doesn't mean I should be beholden to their decision?
Bottom line - I don't like people who think they can make decisions about me, without my input. And to put it bluntly the chances of me asking two cute girls to fight over me and then saying I will date the winner is infinitesimal. It's not in my nature.
So yes, I would love to watch to cute girls tear chunks out of each other over me. But I will never ask them to do it and if they decide unilaterally to fight over me, that's fine. Just don't expect me to hand myself off to the winner as their trophy.
Go get me Alexandra?
It's like someone telling you, "Hey, bitch, get away from my boyfriend," even though the guy doesn't even know he's the one causing the conflict. It's possible for a similar scenario to occur if you have a girlfriend and she's extremely jealous.
If my girlfriend was involved in a catfight over me, that's different. I was more thinking about a catfight over me where neither party has an emotional connection to me.
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Probably every girl had such a "friend" who spread gossip and provoked conflicts.
I think this is the most common reason for female fights. I've had fights over it. Because of these reasons, we fight much more often than over men.
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Quote from: Olga on September 17, 2025, 01:23:28 PM
Probably every girl had such a "friend" who spread gossip and provoked conflicts.
I think this is the most common reason for female fights. I've had fights over it. Because of these reasons, we fight much more often than over men.
We're definitely are own worst enemies. And normally when this does occur, in my experience it's nearly always are so called friends who stab you in the back and set you against someone.
I would not consider fighting another woman at the whim of my husband, Mike. And he would never demand that I fight for his pleasure. But I would consider using him as my interlocutor, proposing an arranged fight to my opponent's male partner. Her man would have a difficult time in passing on the challenge.
Difficult because it would be hard for him to hide his arousal at the prospect of seeing his woman brawling with me in front of him and Mike. Difficult because she would have a hard time saying no, without looking like an inferior woman in his eyes. If she agreed to fight, but with the condition that he must fight my man, it would be difficult for him to say no. And I would love for that to happen.
When Mike and I create our fantasy fights with other couples, we use this approach to make sure that everyone gets what they want when there is a face-off to be had. It's a partnership based on lust and violence. It's a bond where neither partner feels unappreciated. And it's wildly exciting and primal to fight in front of your mate. It doesn't have to be a forced fight done at the whim of your other half. It can be calculated and well-planned which makes the entire battle even more orgasmic...win or lose. So if you are going to fight for your man, consider that he be ready to do the same for you.
Lynn
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Probably every girl had such a "friend" who spread gossip and provoked conflicts.
I think this is the most common reason for female fights. I've had fights over it. Because of these reasons, we fight much more often than over men.
We're definitely are own worst enemies. And normally when this does occur, in my experience it's nearly always are so called friends who stab you in the back and set you against someone.
Exactly. But it's not just friends who do this, but also colleagues at work or college or university. I had fights against a "friend" and against my university classmate.
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Quote from: Olga on September 17, 2025, 01:23:28 PM
Probably every girl had such a "friend" who spread gossip and provoked conflicts.
I think this is the most common reason for female fights. I've had fights over it. Because of these reasons, we fight much more often than over men.
We're definitely are own worst enemies. And normally when this does occur, in my experience it's nearly always are so called friends who stab you in the back and set you against someone.
I couldn't have said it better your spot on, that's exactly what happened to me I've never expected to be stabbed in the back by her
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Your question is very difficult. I can't answer it definitively. Do I trust my friend... Yes. Would I agree if she spent the weekend in a country house with my man... No.
Thanks to everyone who shared their opinions. As I said, I asked this question to my friends in real life, but they weren't interested in fighting; many of them had never even fought. This group is made up of girls who enjoy fighting in one way or another. So, it's even more interesting to hear your opinions.
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Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Your question is very difficult. I can't answer it definitively. Do I trust my friend... Yes. Would I agree if she spent the weekend in a country house with my man... No.
Hehe great example Olga. But I was thinking about something more along the lines of this:
Do you trust your friends not to lie about you or gossip about you behind your back?
Do you trust them to have your back, if say on a night out 2-3 girls wanted trouble?
Xoxo
Kate
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
I agree with Olga on this issue. I trust my friends, but not always. For example, I also wouldn't trust even my best friend with anything related to my relationship with my boyfriend.
Let me add one more thing about trust and friends. If you get into a random fight and your ass gets kicked in that fight, then don't expect your friends to get into that fight and save your ass.
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Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Let me add one more thing about trust and friends. If you get into a random fight and your ass gets kicked in that fight, then don't expect your friends to get into that fight and save your ass.
This is an absolute given, as long as it's one on one and both participants want to fight...then everyone else should stay out of their personal business. But if 2-3 girls were squaring up to you, would you trust your friends to step forward and have your back?
When I ask myself that question my answer is perhaps, maybe...
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Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Let me add one more thing about trust and friends. If you get into a random fight and your ass gets kicked in that fight, then don't expect your friends to get into that fight and save your ass.
This is an absolute given, as long as it's one on one and both participants want to fight...then everyone else should stay out of their personal business. But if 2-3 girls were squaring up to you, would you trust your friends to step forward and have your back?
When I ask myself that question my answer is perhaps, maybe...
After what happened to me once, I'm not sure if my friends would get into a fight, even if 2-3 girls attacked me. Three years ago, I got into a drunken fight against a bitch. I was in the company of 2 of my friends and this bitch was in the company of her friend. We fought 1 on 1 and it was fair. But it was very bad that at the moment when I had already lost and was lying beaten on the ground, this bitch continued to beat me (she literally punched me in the face and head), my friends did not even try to stop this fight. They were just watching that bitch smash my face. After the fight, they told me that they did not try to stop the fight because they were afraid of being beaten.
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 12:56:18 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Let me add one more thing about trust and friends. If you get into a random fight and your ass gets kicked in that fight, then don't expect your friends to get into that fight and save your ass.
This is an absolute given, as long as it's one on one and both participants want to fight...then everyone else should stay out of their personal business. But if 2-3 girls were squaring up to you, would you trust your friends to step forward and have your back?
When I ask myself that question my answer is perhaps, maybe...
After what happened to me once, I'm not sure if my friends would get into a fight, even if 2-3 girls attacked me. Three years ago, I got into a drunken fight against a bitch. I was in the company of 2 of my friends and this bitch was in the company of her friend. We fought 1 on 1 and it was fair. But it was very bad that at the moment when I had already lost and was lying beaten on the ground, this bitch continued to beat me (she literally punched me in the face and head), my friends did not even try to stop this fight. They were just watching that bitch smash my face. After the fight, they told me that they did not try to stop the fight because they were afraid of being beaten.
That's horrible but I think you would agree it's an occupational hazard for those who fight. However it says a lot about your inner strength and character that you're still fighting :)
However those friends of yours...I'm not sure I would believe them myself.
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 12:56:18 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Let me add one more thing about trust and friends. If you get into a random fight and your ass gets kicked in that fight, then don't expect your friends to get into that fight and save your ass.
This is an absolute given, as long as it's one on one and both participants want to fight...then everyone else should stay out of their personal business. But if 2-3 girls were squaring up to you, would you trust your friends to step forward and have your back?
When I ask myself that question my answer is perhaps, maybe...
Let me try to explain. I could get into trouble when I was a schoolgirl. Back then, my friends and I would get into a fight with another group or something like that. I'm unlikely to get into a street fight right now. But even if that happens, it's important which of my friends is by my side. She may be a wonderful woman, but she's never been in a fight, and the very prospect of being beaten terrifies her. And although I trust her, she won't be able to help me in a fight. At best, she might call the police. And if, for example, Daria or Lenka are with me, then there is no doubt that they will definitely help me.
I can understand the friends' feelings, as I've seen friends who intervened to stop it get beaten up themselves. You have to consider how many girls you're up against and how mean they are.
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 01:20:33 PM
However those friends of yours...I'm not sure I would believe them myself.
As far as I know, both of my friends have never fought (except for their school days), but one of them is a girl who is just under 180 centimeters tall and weighs about 75 kilograms. They had a good chance of stopping the fight. At least they could have just screamed and called for help, but they didn't. Whatever you understand, at that moment it was no longer a fight, but a beating, and it could have ended more cruelly for me than a broken nose and a broken face.
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 01:20:33 PM
However those friends of yours...I'm not sure I would believe them myself.
As far as I know, both of my friends have never fought (except for their school days), but one of them is a girl who is just under 180 centimeters tall and weighs about 75 kilograms. They had a good chance of stopping the fight. At least they could have just screamed and called for help, but they didn't. Whatever you understand, at that moment it was no longer a fight, but a beating, and it could have ended more cruelly for me than a broken nose and a broken face.
Exactly, when us girls choose to fight (Or boys for that matter) we enter an unspoken contract which basically says we're both going to walk away from this. A beat down like the one you received is too much, far too much and the bitch could have easily ruined two life's that night!
I'm not the nicest girl after all catfight, I will admit that. But what I unleash after a fight is more of a psychological attack, I will always try to put the fear of god into my rival. Then hopefully the bitch will have the sense in the future to stay the fuck out of my business and life. Does my tactic work? I would say the jury is still deliberating on that one.
Xoxo
Kate
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 18, 2025, 07:30:55 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 12:56:18 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Let me add one more thing about trust and friends. If you get into a random fight and your ass gets kicked in that fight, then don't expect your friends to get into that fight and save your ass.
This is an absolute given, as long as it's one on one and both participants want to fight...then everyone else should stay out of their personal business. But if 2-3 girls were squaring up to you, would you trust your friends to step forward and have your back?
When I ask myself that question my answer is perhaps, maybe...
After what happened to me once, I'm not sure if my friends would get into a fight, even if 2-3 girls attacked me. Three years ago, I got into a drunken fight against a bitch. I was in the company of 2 of my friends and this bitch was in the company of her friend. We fought 1 on 1 and it was fair. But it was very bad that at the moment when I had already lost and was lying beaten on the ground, this bitch continued to beat me (she literally punched me in the face and head), my friends did not even try to stop this fight. They were just watching that bitch smash my face. After the fight, they told me that they did not try to stop the fight because they were afraid of being beaten.
It's very sad to hear about this.
At least now I know what to expect from these two friends in an extreme situation. But I'm still surprised by the cowardice of my friend, who is almost 180 centimeters tall and weighs 75 kilograms.
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 18, 2025, 07:30:55 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 12:56:18 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Let me add one more thing about trust and friends. If you get into a random fight and your ass gets kicked in that fight, then don't expect your friends to get into that fight and save your ass.
This is an absolute given, as long as it's one on one and both participants want to fight...then everyone else should stay out of their personal business. But if 2-3 girls were squaring up to you, would you trust your friends to step forward and have your back?
When I ask myself that question my answer is perhaps, maybe...
After what happened to me once, I'm not sure if my friends would get into a fight, even if 2-3 girls attacked me. Three years ago, I got into a drunken fight against a bitch. I was in the company of 2 of my friends and this bitch was in the company of her friend. We fought 1 on 1 and it was fair. But it was very bad that at the moment when I had already lost and was lying beaten on the ground, this bitch continued to beat me (she literally punched me in the face and head), my friends did not even try to stop this fight. They were just watching that bitch smash my face. After the fight, they told me that they did not try to stop the fight because they were afraid of being beaten.
It's very sad to hear about this.
At least now I know what to expect from these two friends in an extreme situation. But I'm still surprised by the cowardice of my friend, who is almost 180 centimeters tall and weighs 75 kilograms.
But was it really cowardice or secretly she just didn't care?
It's an impossible question to answer I know, but based on everything you've said about your experience. I feel for you and I'm struggling to reconcile your friend's inaction and if the same happened to me. Me and my friends would have had words at a later date, I'm not saying we would have had a fight. But we definitely would have had an argument about the events of that night.
And yes...I am bitch.
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 18, 2025, 07:30:55 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 12:56:18 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Let me add one more thing about trust and friends. If you get into a random fight and your ass gets kicked in that fight, then don't expect your friends to get into that fight and save your ass.
This is an absolute given, as long as it's one on one and both participants want to fight...then everyone else should stay out of their personal business. But if 2-3 girls were squaring up to you, would you trust your friends to step forward and have your back?
When I ask myself that question my answer is perhaps, maybe...
After what happened to me once, I'm not sure if my friends would get into a fight, even if 2-3 girls attacked me. Three years ago, I got into a drunken fight against a bitch. I was in the company of 2 of my friends and this bitch was in the company of her friend. We fought 1 on 1 and it was fair. But it was very bad that at the moment when I had already lost and was lying beaten on the ground, this bitch continued to beat me (she literally punched me in the face and head), my friends did not even try to stop this fight. They were just watching that bitch smash my face. After the fight, they told me that they did not try to stop the fight because they were afraid of being beaten.
It's very sad to hear about this.
At least now I know what to expect from these two friends in an extreme situation. But I'm still surprised by the cowardice of my friend, who is almost 180 centimeters tall and weighs 75 kilograms.
But was it really cowardice or secretly she just didn't care?
It's an impossible question to answer I know, but based on everything you've said about your experience. I feel for you and I'm struggling to reconcile your friend's inaction and if the same happened to me. Me and my friends would have had words at a later date, I'm not saying we would have had a fight. But we definitely would have had an argument about the events of that night.
And yes...I am bitch.
I've known her for many years and she's a good friend in other situations. She's not a conflicted person and she's not used to getting into fights, unlike me. So I'm sure she was just scared.
I didn't seriously quarrel with them about this situation after the fight. At least they helped me get to my house after the fight. Considering how bad I was and how badly I was beaten after the fight, I needed their help in this
Don't worry about it, I'm a bitch too. ;D
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 02:09:35 AM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 18, 2025, 07:30:55 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 12:56:18 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Let me add one more thing about trust and friends. If you get into a random fight and your ass gets kicked in that fight, then don't expect your friends to get into that fight and save your ass.
This is an absolute given, as long as it's one on one and both participants want to fight...then everyone else should stay out of their personal business. But if 2-3 girls were squaring up to you, would you trust your friends to step forward and have your back?
When I ask myself that question my answer is perhaps, maybe...
After what happened to me once, I'm not sure if my friends would get into a fight, even if 2-3 girls attacked me. Three years ago, I got into a drunken fight against a bitch. I was in the company of 2 of my friends and this bitch was in the company of her friend. We fought 1 on 1 and it was fair. But it was very bad that at the moment when I had already lost and was lying beaten on the ground, this bitch continued to beat me (she literally punched me in the face and head), my friends did not even try to stop this fight. They were just watching that bitch smash my face. After the fight, they told me that they did not try to stop the fight because they were afraid of being beaten.
It's very sad to hear about this.
At least now I know what to expect from these two friends in an extreme situation. But I'm still surprised by the cowardice of my friend, who is almost 180 centimeters tall and weighs 75 kilograms.
But was it really cowardice or secretly she just didn't care?
It's an impossible question to answer I know, but based on everything you've said about your experience. I feel for you and I'm struggling to reconcile your friend's inaction and if the same happened to me. Me and my friends would have had words at a later date, I'm not saying we would have had a fight. But we definitely would have had an argument about the events of that night.
And yes...I am bitch.
I've known her for many years and she's a good friend in other situations. She's not a conflicted person and she's not used to getting into fights, unlike me. So I'm sure she was just scared.
I didn't seriously quarrel with them about this situation after the fight. At least they helped me get to my house after the fight. Considering how bad I was and how badly I was beaten after the fight, I needed their help in this
Don't worry about it, I'm a bitch too. ;D
Great, you're bitches and I'm a cutie. ::)
Now, seriously. Girls, what about you? Would you come to your friends' aid? Would you get into a fight?
It depends upon circumstances.
But if she is outnumbered then of course I'm stepping in. As a rule however I don't like interfering in other girls catfights and I would go nuclear if someone interfered in mine.
But if something was going down like what happened to Ruslana, then of course I will act.
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 19, 2025, 08:11:46 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 02:09:35 AM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 18, 2025, 07:30:55 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 12:56:18 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Let me add one more thing about trust and friends. If you get into a random fight and your ass gets kicked in that fight, then don't expect your friends to get into that fight and save your ass.
This is an absolute given, as long as it's one on one and both participants want to fight...then everyone else should stay out of their personal business. But if 2-3 girls were squaring up to you, would you trust your friends to step forward and have your back?
When I ask myself that question my answer is perhaps, maybe...
After what happened to me once, I'm not sure if my friends would get into a fight, even if 2-3 girls attacked me. Three years ago, I got into a drunken fight against a bitch. I was in the company of 2 of my friends and this bitch was in the company of her friend. We fought 1 on 1 and it was fair. But it was very bad that at the moment when I had already lost and was lying beaten on the ground, this bitch continued to beat me (she literally punched me in the face and head), my friends did not even try to stop this fight. They were just watching that bitch smash my face. After the fight, they told me that they did not try to stop the fight because they were afraid of being beaten.
It's very sad to hear about this.
At least now I know what to expect from these two friends in an extreme situation. But I'm still surprised by the cowardice of my friend, who is almost 180 centimeters tall and weighs 75 kilograms.
But was it really cowardice or secretly she just didn't care?
It's an impossible question to answer I know, but based on everything you've said about your experience. I feel for you and I'm struggling to reconcile your friend's inaction and if the same happened to me. Me and my friends would have had words at a later date, I'm not saying we would have had a fight. But we definitely would have had an argument about the events of that night.
And yes...I am bitch.
I've known her for many years and she's a good friend in other situations. She's not a conflicted person and she's not used to getting into fights, unlike me. So I'm sure she was just scared.
I didn't seriously quarrel with them about this situation after the fight. At least they helped me get to my house after the fight. Considering how bad I was and how badly I was beaten after the fight, I needed their help in this
Don't worry about it, I'm a bitch too. ;D
Great, you're bitches and I'm a cutie. ::)
Now, seriously. Girls, what about you? Would you come to your friends' aid? Would you get into a fight?
It depends upon circumstances.
But if she is outnumbered then of course I'm stepping in. As a rule however I don't like interfering in other girls catfights and I would go nuclear if someone interfered in mine.
But if something was going down like what happened to Ruslana, then of course I will act.
So it turns out that Sasha is a cutie, and Kate and Ruslana are bitches. Now I'm going to go and tell everyone I know about this. I guess that's how gossip starts. ;D
Kate, I think you're setting too many conditions. It seems to me that you are confusing an organized fight and a fight that arose spontaneously. If the girls agreed to fight one-on-one, then that's their business, of course. But if a fight broke out, I don't know, like in a bar, when some drunk bitch attacked your friend, are you just going to stand there and watch? You're saying that you don't like it when people interfere in your fights, meaning that if you're lying on the ground and some bitch is kicking you, there's no need to interfere? I don't know if even a stranger was being beaten in front of me, I would have tried to stop the fight.
Although, to be honest, in the heat of a fight it's hard for me to stop; I can easily land a few blows on an already fallen opponent, and I'll be grateful to my friends if they pull me away from her before I cause serious harm to her health.
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 02:09:35 AM
Now, seriously. Girls, what about you? Would you come to your friends' aid? Would you get into a fight?
It depends on the situation. For example, if my friend is attacked by 2 bitches, then I will get into a fight. If my friend loses the fight and the bitch beats her up on the ground with unnecessary cruelty, trying to cause her serious injuries, then I will also try to stop this bitch.
But I won't get into a fight if it's a 1-on-1 fight and regardless of who wins, as long as the winner doesn't try to beat the loser to a pulp, as was the case in my unsuccessful fight.
I agree with what Olga wrote above. In a random fight, I fight violently and can also punch my opponent lying on the ground several times. But I will only do this as long as my opponent poses a threat to me, so as not to lose my victory. If I see that my opponent is no longer dangerous and is not trying to fight, but is lying helplessly on the ground, then I will not continue to beat her. I don't want to be responsible for this bitch's severe injuries and I don't want to get in serious trouble with the pol
Quote from: Olga on September 19, 2025, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 19, 2025, 08:11:46 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 02:09:35 AM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 18, 2025, 07:30:55 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 18, 2025, 12:56:18 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 18, 2025, 12:18:31 PM
Ok, this is slightly off topic...so I apologise for that. However based on the conversation so far, I have to ask:
How much do us girls honestly trust our female friends?
I've been asking myself that all morning and I still have not come up with an answer... which in itself is very telling.
Xoxo
Kate
Let me add one more thing about trust and friends. If you get into a random fight and your ass gets kicked in that fight, then don't expect your friends to get into that fight and save your ass.
This is an absolute given, as long as it's one on one and both participants want to fight...then everyone else should stay out of their personal business. But if 2-3 girls were squaring up to you, would you trust your friends to step forward and have your back?
When I ask myself that question my answer is perhaps, maybe...
After what happened to me once, I'm not sure if my friends would get into a fight, even if 2-3 girls attacked me. Three years ago, I got into a drunken fight against a bitch. I was in the company of 2 of my friends and this bitch was in the company of her friend. We fought 1 on 1 and it was fair. But it was very bad that at the moment when I had already lost and was lying beaten on the ground, this bitch continued to beat me (she literally punched me in the face and head), my friends did not even try to stop this fight. They were just watching that bitch smash my face. After the fight, they told me that they did not try to stop the fight because they were afraid of being beaten.
It's very sad to hear about this.
At least now I know what to expect from these two friends in an extreme situation. But I'm still surprised by the cowardice of my friend, who is almost 180 centimeters tall and weighs 75 kilograms.
But was it really cowardice or secretly she just didn't care?
It's an impossible question to answer I know, but based on everything you've said about your experience. I feel for you and I'm struggling to reconcile your friend's inaction and if the same happened to me. Me and my friends would have had words at a later date, I'm not saying we would have had a fight. But we definitely would have had an argument about the events of that night.
And yes...I am bitch.
I've known her for many years and she's a good friend in other situations. She's not a conflicted person and she's not used to getting into fights, unlike me. So I'm sure she was just scared.
I didn't seriously quarrel with them about this situation after the fight. At least they helped me get to my house after the fight. Considering how bad I was and how badly I was beaten after the fight, I needed their help in this
Don't worry about it, I'm a bitch too. ;D
Great, you're bitches and I'm a cutie. ::)
Now, seriously. Girls, what about you? Would you come to your friends' aid? Would you get into a fight?
It depends upon circumstances.
But if she is outnumbered then of course I'm stepping in. As a rule however I don't like interfering in other girls catfights and I would go nuclear if someone interfered in mine.
But if something was going down like what happened to Ruslana, then of course I will act.
So it turns out that Sasha is a cutie, and Kate and Ruslana are bitches. Now I'm going to go and tell everyone I know about this. I guess that's how gossip starts. ;D
Kate, I think you're setting too many conditions. It seems to me that you are confusing an organized fight and a fight that arose spontaneously. If the girls agreed to fight one-on-one, then that's their business, of course. But if a fight broke out, I don't know, like in a bar, when some drunk bitch attacked your friend, are you just going to stand there and watch? You're saying that you don't like it when people interfere in your fights, meaning that if you're lying on the ground and some bitch is kicking you, there's no need to interfere? I don't know if even a stranger was being beaten in front of me, I would have tried to stop the fight.
Although, to be honest, in the heat of a fight it's hard for me to stop; I can easily land a few blows on an already fallen opponent, and I'll be grateful to my friends if they pull me away from her before I cause serious harm to her health.
As I said at the start of my previous answer, it depends upon the circumstances. Which was honestly me being lazy with my reply...I had just got up and had not had my morning coffee. I don't function so good without it ;D
If my friend is a willing participant, then I'm staying out of it. But I will watch her back. If she was not say a willing participant then, I will act.
If I was on the floor being kicked and stomped into the dance floor, if I was utterly defenceless? Then of course I would be grateful for any proverbial white knight. But when we reach this stage, it's not a fight - it's a beat down and my mind separates beat downs from fights. If I'm in what I judge to be a fight, fuck yes I would go nuclear if a friend interfered.
If a friend interferes during a beat down on me, that would be hugely out of character for them. The sad reality is that if they saw this happening to me...I can name three who I'm certain would be making fucking TikTok's. As for the others, they would act...I'm sure of it, well kind of sure. Definitely most likely...assuming of course they didn't have more important problems. Something urgent like a broken nail :P
My friends are great for a spa day, even better for a day of shopping and dinner together. But do I confide in them? Hell no, the minute my back is turned those juicy secrets will be sent to a plethora of what's app groups. Do I trust them to have my back on a night out, I don't know...I really don't know.
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 10:24:51 AM
Quote from: _Ruslana_ on September 19, 2025, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 02:09:35 AM
Now, seriously. Girls, what about you? Would you come to your friends' aid? Would you get into a fight?
It depends on the situation. For example, if my friend is attacked by 2 bitches, then I will get into a fight. If my friend loses the fight and the bitch beats her up on the ground with unnecessary cruelty, trying to cause her serious injuries, then I will also try to stop this bitch.
But I won't get into a fight if it's a 1-on-1 fight and regardless of who wins, as long as the winner doesn't try to beat the loser to a pulp, as was the case in my unsuccessful fight.
I agree with what Olga wrote above. In a random fight, I fight violently and can also punch my opponent lying on the ground several times. But I will only do this as long as my opponent poses a threat to me, so as not to lose my victory. If I see that my opponent is no longer dangerous and is not trying to fight, but is lying helplessly on the ground, then I will not continue to beat her. I don't want to be responsible for this bitch's severe injuries and I don't want to get in serious trouble with the pol
You're talking about circumstances, but it all boiled down to a fight where your friend is fighting someone one-on-one, and you're wondering if it's worth intervening if she's losing. That's not exactly what I meant. Let me give you a concrete example. You see your friend being beaten up by some strange bitches. There are two of them. You don't know what happened or why. But you understand that if you intervene, you could end up getting beaten up yourself. And the question is, will you rush to help, or will you get scared, like that big girl Ruslana was talking about.
In this situation, I will get into a fight regardless of the risk. I have a lot of experience in spontaneous fights, and I won all of them except one. It gives me a good chance to save my friend in a fight.
But if my friend is attacked by 3 or more bitches at the same time, then first I will try to call for help and after that I will get into a fight. And hopefully, help will come before these bitches have time to kick our asses.
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Now, seriously. Girls, what about you? Would you come to your friends' aid? Would you get into a fight?
It depends on the situation. For example, if my friend is attacked by 2 bitches, then I will get into a fight. If my friend loses the fight and the bitch beats her up on the ground with unnecessary cruelty, trying to cause her serious injuries, then I will also try to stop this bitch.
But I won't get into a fight if it's a 1-on-1 fight and regardless of who wins, as long as the winner doesn't try to beat the loser to a pulp, as was the case in my unsuccessful fight.
I agree with what Olga wrote above. In a random fight, I fight violently and can also punch my opponent lying on the ground several times. But I will only do this as long as my opponent poses a threat to me, so as not to lose my victory. If I see that my opponent is no longer dangerous and is not trying to fight, but is lying helplessly on the ground, then I will not continue to beat her. I don't want to be responsible for this bitch's severe injuries and I don't want to get in serious trouble with the pol
You're talking about circumstances, but it all boiled down to a fight where your friend is fighting someone one-on-one, and you're wondering if it's worth intervening if she's losing. That's not exactly what I meant. Let me give you a concrete example. You see your friend being beaten up by some strange bitches. There are two of them. You don't know what happened or why. But you understand that if you intervene, you could end up getting beaten up yourself. And the question is, will you rush to help, or will you get scared, like that big girl Ruslana was talking about.
In this situation, I will get into a fight regardless of the risk. I have a lot of experience in spontaneous fights, and I won all of them except one. It gives me a good chance to save my friend in a fight.
But if my friend is attacked by 3 or more bitches at the same time, then first I will try to call for help and after that I will get into a fight. And hopefully, help will come before these bitches have time to kick our asses.
I'm kind of the opposite, as I've said before in other posts. When I make the decision to catfight it's usually due to a personal issues between us and the fight only takes place after normally exhausting discussions regarding the where, when and what we're both wearing.
Normally I like to wear jeans, a simple top and my leather ankle boots. However there have been occasions where we dressed up and wanted to present ourselves to each other looking our absolute best, so it does vary.
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 01:40:34 PM
Thus, we came to the conclusion that everything depends on the circumstances. Then let's get back to the original topic. If a man wants you to fight for his entertainment, you say "no," but if certain circumstances arise, you say "maybe," and maybe even "yes."
For example, this is your boss and he doesn't know who to give a promotion to, you or your colleague, and he suggests resolving this issue with a fight. Or it's a potential employer, and he offers you to fight with another girl, since he can only hire one of you.
The conditions are different, the prize for the winner is different, but the idea is the same. You'll fight another girl, and the man will watch and enjoy it.
What do you say, bitches? ::)
I would slap the pig and then take him to the cleaners through the courts. In the UK something like this just wouldn't happen and I would be in total shock if any woman in the UK were to experience such a proposal.
But could this happen in other countries? My guess could be yes but I really have no idea.
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 01:40:34 PM
Thus, we came to the conclusion that everything depends on the circumstances. Then let's get back to the original topic. If a man wants you to fight for his entertainment, you say "no," but if certain circumstances arise, you say "maybe," and maybe even "yes."
For example, this is your boss and he doesn't know who to give a promotion to, you or your colleague, and he suggests resolving this issue with a fight. Or it's a potential employer, and he offers you to fight with another girl, since he can only hire one of you.
The conditions are different, the prize for the winner is different, but the idea is the same. You'll fight another girl, and the man will watch and enjoy it.
What do you say, bitches? ::)
First of all, don't call me a bitch. :)
Second of all, any boss suggesting a fight as a means to secure a promotion would be fired from any legitimate company. If it were two exotic dancers or sex workers, yeah, I suppose that might happen.
My boyfriend has told me that he would love to see me in a fight, but wouldn't want for me to get hurt. It's a great topic for foreplay and works really well for us ;) , but not realistic as the other girl and I would get hurt, so it's a fantasy of his, separating the spectacle from the consequences.
So for me the answer is no, I would not fight for his (or any man's) entertainment, and can't imagine any circumstance that would cause me to realistically change my mind IRL.
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Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 01:40:34 PM
Thus, we came to the conclusion that everything depends on the circumstances. Then let's get back to the original topic. If a man wants you to fight for his entertainment, you say "no," but if certain circumstances arise, you say "maybe," and maybe even "yes."
For example, this is your boss and he doesn't know who to give a promotion to, you or your colleague, and he suggests resolving this issue with a fight. Or it's a potential employer, and he offers you to fight with another girl, since he can only hire one of you.
The conditions are different, the prize for the winner is different, but the idea is the same. You'll fight another girl, and the man will watch and enjoy it.
What do you say, bitches? ::)
First of all, don't call me a bitch. :)
Second of all, any boss suggesting a fight as a means to secure a promotion would be fired from any legitimate company. If it were two exotic dancers or sex workers, yeah, I suppose that might happen.
My boyfriend has told me that he would love to see me in a fight, but wouldn't want for me to get hurt. It's a great topic for foreplay and works really well for us ;) , but not realistic as the other girl and I would get hurt, so it's a fantasy of his, separating the spectacle from the consequences.
So for me the answer is no, I would not fight for his (or any man's) entertainment, and can't imagine any circumstance that would cause me to realistically change my mind IRL.
What's wrong with you? He'll fire you and sue you. I was asking about something completely different. Would you agree to such terms? What happens to the boss depends on what he's the boss of. It's unlikely that anyone would suggest such a way to get a promotion to clerks or factory workers. I could name industries where this is entirely possible. But that's not the point.
Let me repeat, I am talking about those situations when you are offered to fight voluntarily, and not forced to do so by threats or blackmail.
What's wrong with me, what's wrong with YOU! If you do such a thing, he now has control over you, and what's to prevent him to do similar things in the future, always proposing that for some reward that you fight another girl 'voluntarily'. The situations which you describe (fighting for a promotion, fighting to get hired) would not get me fired or sued, but it might get him fired or demoted because he is being manipulative and serving his own needs and not the company's needs. Maybe it's different in Russia.
How about we take this discussion in a slightly different direction and give our thoughts about when we would fight for our man?
For me there really is only one, maybe two scenarios (But scenario number two is a huge maybe).
Scenario One:
Another woman keeps propositioning your man. Your man has behaved impeccably and politely declined her advances more than once and he has been honest and kept you in the loop as to what she has been doing. The first time may of been an honest mistake, being charitable a second time might be down to our man being clumsy with his words and not spelling out he is taken. A third time? Well at this point me and her absolutely will be having a little private girl talk! And if the other woman in this scenario was known to me and I knew; she knew he was taken? Then of course there are no warnings. She has made a declaration of war and I happily accept!
Scenario Two:
Some bitch, probably at his work place is using her position to make his life a living hell. He is doing what he can while working under the confines of office politics. He approaches me and asks for my support and assistance. This is tricky, you can't just pick a fight with your man's boss. Maybe at a workplace event you can get an opportunity to speak with her woman to woman? Maybe a mutual agreement to discuss things further in more suitable setting can be agreed? Or perhaps the real answer here is that beyond love and support, a catfight with his boss would be useless. As honestly is his situation realistically going to improve if I kick his bitch bosses ass?
Oh one final caveat: In either scenario my man would be left at home, as personally inviting him to watch is indulgent and distasteful. Well at least for me :)
So have I missed anything girls?
Xoxo
Kate
I'll probably tell you a story too. I have a friend who wrestled in her youth. There was another girl in her section with whom she was constantly competing. So, they had to put together a team for a regional competition. Two girls were vying for a spot on the team in their weight class. The coach, instead of making a decision himself or drawing lots, suggested that they wrestle. The girls disliked each other. Their fight quickly spiraled out of control. It's hard to say who broke the rules first, but the wrestling match turned into a brawl. The girls were separated, but they started fighting again in the locker room. A very violent fight broke out between them. Both were injured and were unable to compete. The parents of one of the girls filed a complaint against the coach. The proceedings were lengthy. So, the idea of ??finding out who was better didn't work out, although it was a good one. But as always, reality ruined all the plans.
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Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 01:40:34 PM
Thus, we came to the conclusion that everything depends on the circumstances. Then let's get back to the original topic. If a man wants you to fight for his entertainment, you say "no," but if certain circumstances arise, you say "maybe," and maybe even "yes."
For example, this is your boss and he doesn't know who to give a promotion to, you or your colleague, and he suggests resolving this issue with a fight. Or it's a potential employer, and he offers you to fight with another girl, since he can only hire one of you.
The conditions are different, the prize for the winner is different, but the idea is the same. You'll fight another girl, and the man will watch and enjoy it.
What do you say, bitches? ::)
First of all, don't call me a bitch. :)
Second of all, any boss suggesting a fight as a means to secure a promotion would be fired from any legitimate company. If it were two exotic dancers or sex workers, yeah, I suppose that might happen.
My boyfriend has told me that he would love to see me in a fight, but wouldn't want for me to get hurt. It's a great topic for foreplay and works really well for us ;) , but not realistic as the other girl and I would get hurt, so it's a fantasy of his, separating the spectacle from the consequences.
So for me the answer is no, I would not fight for his (or any man's) entertainment, and can't imagine any circumstance that would cause me to realistically change my mind IRL.
What's wrong with you? He'll fire you and sue you. I was asking about something completely different. Would you agree to such terms? What happens to the boss depends on what he's the boss of. It's unlikely that anyone would suggest such a way to get a promotion to clerks or factory workers. I could name industries where this is entirely possible. But that's not the point.
Let me repeat, I am talking about those situations when you are offered to fight voluntarily, and not forced to do so by threats or blackmail.
What's wrong with me, what's wrong with YOU! If you do such a thing, he now has control over you, and what's to prevent him to do similar things in the future, always proposing that for some reward that you fight another girl 'voluntarily'. The situations which you describe (fighting for a promotion, fighting to get hired) would not get me fired or sued, but it might get him fired or demoted because he is being manipulative and serving his own needs and not the company's needs. Maybe it's different in Russia.
Oh, yes, it's different in Russia ;D
Quote from: Olga on September 20, 2025, 02:13:11 PM
I'll probably tell you a story too. I have a friend who wrestled in her youth. There was another girl in her section with whom she was constantly competing. So, they had to put together a team for a regional competition. Two girls were vying for a spot on the team in their weight class. The coach, instead of making a decision himself or drawing lots, suggested that they wrestle. The girls disliked each other. Their fight quickly spiraled out of control. It's hard to say who broke the rules first, but the wrestling match turned into a brawl. The girls were separated, but they started fighting again in the locker room. A very violent fight broke out between them. Both were injured and were unable to compete. The parents of one of the girls filed a complaint against the coach. The proceedings were lengthy. So, the idea of ??finding out who was better didn't work out, although it was a good one. But as always, reality ruined all the plans.
Great story but I feel sorry for the coach. If the girls wrestling skills were about equal and if they had both enjoyed an equally successful season of competition. Then having them wrestle to decide the spot seems fair to me. The fact they couldn't control their emotions is on them, the fact they beat each other up so badly is on them.
I would only criticise the coach if he knew they hated each other? And it's possible the coach might have been clueless...us girls are adept at hiding such things. Especially if the coach was male.
Xoxo
Kate
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 20, 2025, 02:11:04 PM
How about we take this discussion in a slightly different direction and give our thoughts about when we would fight for our man?
For me there really is only one, maybe two scenarios (But scenario number two is a huge maybe).
Scenario One:
Another woman keeps propositioning your man. Your man has behaved impeccably and politely declined her advances more than once and he has been honest and kept you in the loop as to what she has been doing. The first time may of been an honest mistake, being charitable a second time might be down to our man being clumsy with his words and not spelling out he is taken. A third time? Well at this point me and her absolutely will be having a little private girl talk! And if the other woman in this scenario was known to me and I knew; she knew he was taken? Then of course there are no warnings. She has made a declaration of war and I happily accept!
Scenario Two:
Some bitch, probably at his work place is using her position to make his life a living hell. He is doing what he can while working under the confines of office politics. He approaches me and asks for my support and assistance. This is tricky, you can't just pick a fight with your man's boss. Maybe at a workplace event you can get an opportunity to speak with her woman to woman? Maybe a mutual agreement to discuss things further in more suitable setting can be agreed? Or perhaps the real answer here is that beyond love and support, a catfight with his boss would be useless. As honestly is his situation realistic going to improve if I kick his bitch bosses ass?
Oh one final caveat: In either scenario my man would be left at home, as personally inviting him to watch is indulgent and distasteful. Well at least for me :)
So have I missed anything girls?
Xoxo
Kate
Scenario One would definitely set the stage for a confrontation with little Miss Flirt with me.
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Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 01:40:34 PM
Thus, we came to the conclusion that everything depends on the circumstances. Then let's get back to the original topic. If a man wants you to fight for his entertainment, you say "no," but if certain circumstances arise, you say "maybe," and maybe even "yes."
For example, this is your boss and he doesn't know who to give a promotion to, you or your colleague, and he suggests resolving this issue with a fight. Or it's a potential employer, and he offers you to fight with another girl, since he can only hire one of you.
The conditions are different, the prize for the winner is different, but the idea is the same. You'll fight another girl, and the man will watch and enjoy it.
What do you say, bitches? ::)
First of all, don't call me a bitch. :)
Second of all, any boss suggesting a fight as a means to secure a promotion would be fired from any legitimate company. If it were two exotic dancers or sex workers, yeah, I suppose that might happen.
My boyfriend has told me that he would love to see me in a fight, but wouldn't want for me to get hurt. It's a great topic for foreplay and works really well for us ;) , but not realistic as the other girl and I would get hurt, so it's a fantasy of his, separating the spectacle from the consequences.
So for me the answer is no, I would not fight for his (or any man's) entertainment, and can't imagine any circumstance that would cause me to realistically change my mind IRL.
What's wrong with you? He'll fire you and sue you. I was asking about something completely different. Would you agree to such terms? What happens to the boss depends on what he's the boss of. It's unlikely that anyone would suggest such a way to get a promotion to clerks or factory workers. I could name industries where this is entirely possible. But that's not the point.
Let me repeat, I am talking about those situations when you are offered to fight voluntarily, and not forced to do so by threats or blackmail.
What's wrong with me, what's wrong with YOU! If you do such a thing, he now has control over you, and what's to prevent him to do similar things in the future, always proposing that for some reward that you fight another girl 'voluntarily'. The situations which you describe (fighting for a promotion, fighting to get hired) would not get me fired or sued, but it might get him fired or demoted because he is being manipulative and serving his own needs and not the company's needs. Maybe it's different in Russia.
You misunderstood me. I was suggesting we discuss your actions in this situation, not whether the proposal itself is legal or what the possible consequences might be.
And yes, in Russia everything is different ;)
You responded to Kate on this topic, and mentioned a ticket to a concert of your favorite artist or some thing that you really want to possess. or a man has something that you really want, and he is willing to give it to you if you win over another girl who also really wants to get this thing. That is totally different from a case where the man is your boss or potential boss. I would totally fight over Taylor Swift tickets! ;D There'd be no long term angle for him to get me to fight again, unless he had something special that I really wanted.
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Quote from: Alix_Fights on September 20, 2025, 11:37:51 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on September 19, 2025, 01:40:34 PM
Thus, we came to the conclusion that everything depends on the circumstances. Then let's get back to the original topic. If a man wants you to fight for his entertainment, you say "no," but if certain circumstances arise, you say "maybe," and maybe even "yes."
For example, this is your boss and he doesn't know who to give a promotion to, you or your colleague, and he suggests resolving this issue with a fight. Or it's a potential employer, and he offers you to fight with another girl, since he can only hire one of you.
The conditions are different, the prize for the winner is different, but the idea is the same. You'll fight another girl, and the man will watch and enjoy it.
What do you say, bitches? ::)
First of all, don't call me a bitch. :)
Second of all, any boss suggesting a fight as a means to secure a promotion would be fired from any legitimate company. If it were two exotic dancers or sex workers, yeah, I suppose that might happen.
My boyfriend has told me that he would love to see me in a fight, but wouldn't want for me to get hurt. It's a great topic for foreplay and works really well for us ;) , but not realistic as the other girl and I would get hurt, so it's a fantasy of his, separating the spectacle from the consequences.
So for me the answer is no, I would not fight for his (or any man's) entertainment, and can't imagine any circumstance that would cause me to realistically change my mind IRL.
What's wrong with you? He'll fire you and sue you. I was asking about something completely different. Would you agree to such terms? What happens to the boss depends on what he's the boss of. It's unlikely that anyone would suggest such a way to get a promotion to clerks or factory workers. I could name industries where this is entirely possible. But that's not the point.
Let me repeat, I am talking about those situations when you are offered to fight voluntarily, and not forced to do so by threats or blackmail.
What's wrong with me, what's wrong with YOU! If you do such a thing, he now has control over you, and what's to prevent him to do similar things in the future, always proposing that for some reward that you fight another girl 'voluntarily'. The situations which you describe (fighting for a promotion, fighting to get hired) would not get me fired or sued, but it might get him fired or demoted because he is being manipulative and serving his own needs and not the company's needs. Maybe it's different in Russia.
You misunderstood me. I was suggesting we discuss your actions in this situation, not whether the proposal itself is legal or what the possible consequences might be.
And yes, in Russia everything is different ;)
You responded to Kate on this topic, and mentioned a ticket to a concert of your favorite artist or some thing that you really want to possess. or a man has something that you really want, and he is willing to give it to you if you win over another girl who also really wants to get this thing. That is totally different from a case where the man is your boss or potential boss. I would totally fight over Taylor Swift tickets! ;D There'd be no long term angle for him to get me to fight again, unless he had something special that I really wanted.
Fighting over Taylor Swift tickets :o
Ew....Alix! You're so trashy and have zero taste :P :-*
Xoxo
Kate
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 20, 2025, 02:11:04 PM
How about we take this discussion in a slightly different direction and give our thoughts about when we would fight for our man?
For me there really is only one, maybe two scenarios (But scenario number two is a huge maybe).
Scenario One:
Another woman keeps propositioning your man. Your man has behaved impeccably and politely declined her advances more than once and he has been honest and kept you in the loop as to what she has been doing. The first time may of been an honest mistake, being charitable a second time might be down to our man being clumsy with his words and not spelling out he is taken. A third time? Well at this point me and her absolutely will be having a little private girl talk! And if the other woman in this scenario was known to me and I knew; she knew he was taken? Then of course there are no warnings. She has made a declaration of war and I happily accept!
Scenario Two:
Some bitch, probably at his work place is using her position to make his life a living hell. He is doing what he can while working under the confines of office politics. He approaches me and asks for my support and assistance. This is tricky, you can't just pick a fight with your man's boss. Maybe at a workplace event you can get an opportunity to speak with her woman to woman? Maybe a mutual agreement to discuss things further in more suitable setting can be agreed? Or perhaps the real answer here is that beyond love and support, a catfight with his boss would be useless. As honestly is his situation realistically going to improve if I kick his bitch bosses ass?
Oh one final caveat: In either scenario my man would be left at home, as personally inviting him to watch is indulgent and distasteful. Well at least for me :)
So have I missed anything girls?
Xoxo
Kate
Possible scenario three? A woman attacks your man and you know he didn't instigate. Maybe she's drunk or hates men or is angry about something and he is "in the way". Who knows why but there you are with her hitting him. He can probably beat her up but that is heavily frowned upon in some cultures. Do you step in to fight her in his defense?
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 20, 2025, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: Olga on September 20, 2025, 02:13:11 PM
I'll probably tell you a story too. I have a friend who wrestled in her youth. There was another girl in her section with whom she was constantly competing. So, they had to put together a team for a regional competition. Two girls were vying for a spot on the team in their weight class. The coach, instead of making a decision himself or drawing lots, suggested that they wrestle. The girls disliked each other. Their fight quickly spiraled out of control. It's hard to say who broke the rules first, but the wrestling match turned into a brawl. The girls were separated, but they started fighting again in the locker room. A very violent fight broke out between them. Both were injured and were unable to compete. The parents of one of the girls filed a complaint against the coach. The proceedings were lengthy. So, the idea of ??finding out who was better didn't work out, although it was a good one. But as always, reality ruined all the plans.
Great story but I feel sorry for the coach. If the girls wrestling skills were about equal and if they had both enjoyed an equally successful season of competition. Then having them wrestle to decide the spot seems fair to me. The fact they couldn't control their emotions is on them, the fact they beat each other up so badly is on them.
I would only criticise the coach if he knew they hated each other? And it's possible the coach might have been clueless...us girls are adept at hiding such things. Especially if the coach was male.
Xoxo
Kate
I can't say how successful the idea of ??organizing a wrestling match between the girls was, perhaps in his place I would have done exactly the same. But that's not what he was accused of. He was accused of failing to maintain discipline during training (and technically the girls were still training), and the girls were injured. The injuries were quite serious. Besides the bruises and contusions, one of the girls suffered a broken nose and another a cracked rib. He could not and did not intend to enter the women's locker room, and the girls locked the door behind them. There were a lot of girls in the locker room, but no one tried to stop the fight. Instead, they started encouraging the fighters, shouting, "Kill the bitch," "Come on, tear her apart." When things got really bad, both girls were covered in blood, and one of the witnesses to the fight decided to go get the coach. Thus, the essence of the parents' complaint was that the coach did not maintain discipline and violated safety rules.
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 20, 2025, 02:11:04 PM
How about we take this discussion in a slightly different direction and give our thoughts about when we would fight for our man?
For me there really is only one, maybe two scenarios (But scenario number two is a huge maybe).
Scenario One:
Another woman keeps propositioning your man. Your man has behaved impeccably and politely declined her advances more than once and he has been honest and kept you in the loop as to what she has been doing. The first time may of been an honest mistake, being charitable a second time might be down to our man being clumsy with his words and not spelling out he is taken. A third time? Well at this point me and her absolutely will be having a little private girl talk! And if the other woman in this scenario was known to me and I knew; she knew he was taken? Then of course there are no warnings. She has made a declaration of war and I happily accept!
Scenario Two:
Some bitch, probably at his work place is using her position to make his life a living hell. He is doing what he can while working under the confines of office politics. He approaches me and asks for my support and assistance. This is tricky, you can't just pick a fight with your man's boss. Maybe at a workplace event you can get an opportunity to speak with her woman to woman? Maybe a mutual agreement to discuss things further in more suitable setting can be agreed? Or perhaps the real answer here is that beyond love and support, a catfight with his boss would be useless. As honestly is his situation realistically going to improve if I kick his bitch bosses ass?
Oh one final caveat: In either scenario my man would be left at home, as personally inviting him to watch is indulgent and distasteful. Well at least for me :)
So have I missed anything girls?
Xoxo
Kate
When I was a schoolgirl, I often acted like a jerk. If I saw another girl flirting (or maybe they were just talking) with my boyfriend, I'd meet her after class and tell her that if she approached him again, I'd beat her up. Usually, threats were enough. But sometimes, we'd agree to meet up in the evening and fight. But in any case, the guy didn't know anything about it. It was a fight over a guy, although he didn't ask us to fight, moreover, he didn't even know that we were going to fight.
Quote from: Badprof on September 21, 2025, 02:25:31 AM
Interesting topic! Ladies, do you think it's manipulative for men to pay women to fight for their pleasure, or is it a case of willing buyer, willing seller, if both women fight of their own free will, either for a grudge or for cash, and aren't being pressured by a husband or bf?
I don't think it's manipulation. If someone offered me money to fight, there's nothing wrong with that. He made the offer, and I can either refuse or accept. It's my choice. It would be a different matter if my man offered me the same thing. I simply wouldn't understand him and would probably tell him to go to hell.
I once got into an argument with a girl at the gym. It wasn't like we were fighting, just arguing in a heated voice. Then one of the men we knew there suggested we settle the dispute with a wrestling match. He, as they say, challenged us. I understood that this was manipulation on his part, but I didn't want to back down. The other girl wasn't going to back down either. So we went onto the mat and started wrestling, and the men sat around and enjoyed the spectacle. It wasn't a fight, we respected each other, it was a fair grappling match. But it was the man who pushed us into it. He took advantage of the situation, saw that we were heated up by the argument, and added fuel to the fire.
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 10:03:30 AM
I once got into an argument with a girl at the gym. It wasn't like we were fighting, just arguing in a heated voice. Then one of the men we knew there suggested we settle the dispute with a wrestling match. He, as they say, challenged us. I understood that this was manipulation on his part, but I didn't want to back down. The other girl wasn't going to back down either. So we went onto the mat and started wrestling, and the men sat around and enjoyed the spectacle. It wasn't a fight, we respected each other, it was a fair grappling match. But it was the man who pushed us into it. He took advantage of the situation, saw that we were heated up by the argument, and added fuel to the fire.
Hi Olga,
I understand the predicament you found yourself in. But may I suggest a possible alternative course of action that might have with hindsight been a good idea? So Olga imagine it was you and me at the gym that day, we've heard the offer and I said this:
"Or alternatively Olga we could go back to my place, finish our conversation and settle things in private...anyway you like!"
Yes, I'm doubling down. I'm trying to increase the pressure of the situation to a point where the other woman finds her courage lacking and walks away. Which would totally be a victory for me :)
Now at a guess Olga, I suspect you might of said something like:
"Sounds good Kate! Shall we say 3:00pm?"
Yeah I don't think you would have backed down, which totally suits me. Between us we've now taken the men out of the equation and regained control of the situation. This is a huge plus, the negative is however we're probably going to do a lot more than wrestle. It's possible that in the hours proceeding we can take some heat out of our situation. But I imagine we would both find this hard to do, some would see deescalation as a strength, others a weakness. My pride has gotten me into trouble over the years and I suspect it would here, so if things were to deescalate Olga. It would definitely be on you to extend the first olive branch and *Giggle* something tells me you're not the olive branch extending kind?
So I started off by saying this is a good idea and I believe it is, as depending on the other woman you can raise the stakes to a point where she walks away. If she don't you've regained control of the situation and depending on the personalities involved, a peaceful resolution is absolutely possible...I just don't genuinely believe that would of been the case between myself and Olga.
Now...watch Olga reply and disagree with my assessment of her ;D
Xoxo
Kate
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 21, 2025, 10:56:07 AM
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 10:03:30 AM
I once got into an argument with a girl at the gym. It wasn't like we were fighting, just arguing in a heated voice. Then one of the men we knew there suggested we settle the dispute with a wrestling match. He, as they say, challenged us. I understood that this was manipulation on his part, but I didn't want to back down. The other girl wasn't going to back down either. So we went onto the mat and started wrestling, and the men sat around and enjoyed the spectacle. It wasn't a fight, we respected each other, it was a fair grappling match. But it was the man who pushed us into it. He took advantage of the situation, saw that we were heated up by the argument, and added fuel to the fire.
Hi Olga,
I understand the predicament you found yourself in. But may I suggest a possible alternative course of action that might have with hindsight been a good idea? So Olga imagine it was you and me at the gym that day, we've heard the offer and I said this:
"Or alternatively Olga we could go back to my place, finish our conversation and settle things in private...anyway you like!"
Yes, I'm doubling down. I'm trying to increase the pressure of the situation to a point where the other woman finds her courage lacking and walks away. Which would totally be a victory for me :)
Now at a guess Olga, I suspect you might of said something like:
"Sounds good Kate! Shall we say 3:00pm?"
Yeah I don't think you would have backed down, which totally suits me. Between us we've now taken the men out of the equation and regained control of the situation. This is a huge plus, the negative is however we're probably going to do a lot more than wrestle. It's possible that in the hours proceeding we can take some heat out of our situation. But I imagine we would both find this hard to do, some would see deescalation as a strength, others a weakness. My pride has gotten me into trouble over the years and I suspect it would here, so if things were to deescalate Olga. It would definitely be on you to extend the first olive branch and *Giggle* something tells me you're not the olive branch extending kind?
So I started off by saying this is a good idea and I believe it is, as depending on the other woman you can raise the stakes to a point where she walks away. If she don't you've regained control of the situation and depending on the personalities involved, a peaceful resolution is absolutely possible...I just don't genuinely believe that would of been the case between myself and Olga.
Now...watch Olga reply and disagree with my assessment of her ;D
Xoxo
Kate
The situation would be complicated. Kate, if you look like the photo in your profile gallery, then I'm taller, heavier, and, I'd guess, stronger than you. Would you challenge me if your physical attributes weren't in your favor? Let's pretend you and I have the same parameters. But I think you're too hasty in removing the man from the equation. He could have said (and most likely would have said), "Hey, Kate, are you chickening out? Why wait, let's sort this out right now." It often happens that we become hostages of the situation. Let me give you an example. A good friend of mine, a very sarcastic person, got into an argument at a bar with her friend, a real bitch like her. But they weren't planning on fighting, it was just an exchange of barbs.Their altercation attracted the attention of other bar patrons. The girls began to be actively encouraged, and each formed a support group.
I should mention here that the bar belonged to a former crime boss. He retired and focused on legitimate business, but the bar still had a boxing ring and hosted boxing and kickboxing matches on weekends.
So, two girls were calling each other names, escalating the conversation. You know how it goes. Slut, bitch, prostitute, and various other intimate details. It got to the point where one of them threatened to punch the other. The response she got was, "Try it, bitch." Then someone from the crowd suggested that they put on gloves and go into the ring. And then everyone went wild; the idea seemed brilliant to everyone except the girls themselves, but no one asked them. They were helped into the gloves and literally pushed into the ring. When the girls found themselves face to face in the ring, their desire to fight vanished. In fact, they both panicked, wanting to leave, wanting it all to stop. But their pride wouldn't let them. Besides, the crowd was roaring and demanding they get started. They were lucky: as they stood hesitantly facing each other in the ring, the bar owner appeared. He asked what the hell was going on. Then my friend turned to him and said they were being forced to fight. He got angry, told everyone to leave, and treated the girls to drinks on the house. They were just lucky the bar owner showed up just in time. If not, they probably would have had to start a fight, even though they didn't want to.
Now it's me and Kate again. Maybe her suggestion to meet later would have worked. Although it's hard to say. When I'm angry, I don't think clearly. In addition, there were witnesses in the room who could confirm that we fought fairly and, in addition, there would not have been a situation where I would say that I won, and Kate would start saying that she won. We could turn this all into a joke, yes, that's probably possible. But here, personality traits and the reason for the dispute come into play. The ideal option would be if Sasha or Ruslana showed up and said, "Girls, what are you doing? Maybe we should go get some coffee?"
But seriously, I don't know what I would have done. It really depends on the circumstances. Maybe I would have agreed and said, "Okay, see you later," or maybe I would have pushed you and demanded that we start a fight right now. I really don't know.
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 21, 2025, 10:56:07 AM
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 10:03:30 AM
I once got into an argument with a girl at the gym. It wasn't like we were fighting, just arguing in a heated voice. Then one of the men we knew there suggested we settle the dispute with a wrestling match. He, as they say, challenged us. I understood that this was manipulation on his part, but I didn't want to back down. The other girl wasn't going to back down either. So we went onto the mat and started wrestling, and the men sat around and enjoyed the spectacle. It wasn't a fight, we respected each other, it was a fair grappling match. But it was the man who pushed us into it. He took advantage of the situation, saw that we were heated up by the argument, and added fuel to the fire.
Hi Olga,
I understand the predicament you found yourself in. But may I suggest a possible alternative course of action that might have with hindsight been a good idea? So Olga imagine it was you and me at the gym that day, we've heard the offer and I said this:
"Or alternatively Olga we could go back to my place, finish our conversation and settle things in private...anyway you like!"
Yes, I'm doubling down. I'm trying to increase the pressure of the situation to a point where the other woman finds her courage lacking and walks away. Which would totally be a victory for me :)
Now at a guess Olga, I suspect you might of said something like:
"Sounds good Kate! Shall we say 3:00pm?"
Yeah I don't think you would have backed down, which totally suits me. Between us we've now taken the men out of the equation and regained control of the situation. This is a huge plus, the negative is however we're probably going to do a lot more than wrestle. It's possible that in the hours proceeding we can take some heat out of our situation. But I imagine we would both find this hard to do, some would see deescalation as a strength, others a weakness. My pride has gotten me into trouble over the years and I suspect it would here, so if things were to deescalate Olga. It would definitely be on you to extend the first olive branch and *Giggle* something tells me you're not the olive branch extending kind?
So I started off by saying this is a good idea and I believe it is, as depending on the other woman you can raise the stakes to a point where she walks away. If she don't you've regained control of the situation and depending on the personalities involved, a peaceful resolution is absolutely possible...I just don't genuinely believe that would of been the case between myself and Olga.
Now...watch Olga reply and disagree with my assessment of her ;D
Xoxo
Kate
The situation would be complicated. Kate, if you look like the photo in your profile gallery, then I'm taller, heavier, and, I'd guess, stronger than you. Would you challenge me if your physical attributes weren't in your favor? Let's pretend you and I have the same parameters. But I think you're too hasty in removing the man from the equation. He could have said (and most likely would have said), "Hey, Kate, are you chickening out? Why wait, let's sort this out right now." It often happens that we become hostages of the situation. Let me give you an example. A good friend of mine, a very sarcastic person, got into an argument at a bar with her friend, a real bitch like her. But they weren't planning on fighting, it was just an exchange of barbs.Their altercation attracted the attention of other bar patrons. The girls began to be actively encouraged, and each formed a support group.
I should mention here that the bar belonged to a former crime boss. He retired and focused on legitimate business, but the bar still had a boxing ring and hosted boxing and kickboxing matches on weekends.
So, two girls were calling each other names, escalating the conversation. You know how it goes. Slut, bitch, prostitute, and various other intimate details. It got to the point where one of them threatened to punch the other. The response she got was, "Try it, bitch." Then someone from the crowd suggested that they put on gloves and go into the ring. And then everyone went wild; the idea seemed brilliant to everyone except the girls themselves, but no one asked them. They were helped into the gloves and literally pushed into the ring. When the girls found themselves face to face in the ring, their desire to fight vanished. In fact, they both panicked, wanting to leave, wanting it all to stop. But their pride wouldn't let them. Besides, the crowd was roaring and demanding they get started. They were lucky: as they stood hesitantly facing each other in the ring, the bar owner appeared. He asked what the hell was going on. Then my friend turned to him and said they were being forced to fight. He got angry, told everyone to leave, and treated the girls to drinks on the house. They were just lucky the bar owner showed up just in time. If not, they probably would have had to start a fight, even though they didn't want to.
Now it's me and Kate again. Maybe her suggestion to meet later would have worked. Although it's hard to say. When I'm angry, I don't think clearly. In addition, there were witnesses in the room who could confirm that we fought fairly and, in addition, there would not have been a situation where I would say that I won, and Kate would start saying that she won. We could turn this all into a joke, yes, that's probably possible. But here, personality traits and the reason for the dispute come into play. The ideal option would be if Sasha or Ruslana showed up and said, "Girls, what are you doing? Maybe we should go get some coffee?"
But seriously, I don't know what I would have done. It really depends on the circumstances. Maybe I would have agreed and said, "Okay, see you later," or maybe I would have pushed you and demanded that we start a fight right now. I really don't know.
Hi Olga,
I get what you mean about the man trying to assert control over the situation to bring about the outcome he wants. But I'm a fairly strong willed bitch, I would have told him to "Fuck Off" and stay out of our personal business. Also if I did that, I think there is a chance you would have followed my lead in this matter and conveyed to him a similar message?
However the scenario I previously described was more for fun than based on my actual opinion of what would happen if we were to clash. Honestly Olga if you and me ever find ourselves face to face...I'm going to need to get my proverbial affairs in order. I agree that you would be the hot favourite to win.
Xoxo
Kate
PS
And yes, that admission just now was bitterly painful to write ;D
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 21, 2025, 12:31:42 PM
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 21, 2025, 10:56:07 AM
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 10:03:30 AM
I once got into an argument with a girl at the gym. It wasn't like we were fighting, just arguing in a heated voice. Then one of the men we knew there suggested we settle the dispute with a wrestling match. He, as they say, challenged us. I understood that this was manipulation on his part, but I didn't want to back down. The other girl wasn't going to back down either. So we went onto the mat and started wrestling, and the men sat around and enjoyed the spectacle. It wasn't a fight, we respected each other, it was a fair grappling match. But it was the man who pushed us into it. He took advantage of the situation, saw that we were heated up by the argument, and added fuel to the fire.
Hi Olga,
I understand the predicament you found yourself in. But may I suggest a possible alternative course of action that might have with hindsight been a good idea? So Olga imagine it was you and me at the gym that day, we've heard the offer and I said this:
"Or alternatively Olga we could go back to my place, finish our conversation and settle things in private...anyway you like!"
Yes, I'm doubling down. I'm trying to increase the pressure of the situation to a point where the other woman finds her courage lacking and walks away. Which would totally be a victory for me :)
Now at a guess Olga, I suspect you might of said something like:
"Sounds good Kate! Shall we say 3:00pm?"
Yeah I don't think you would have backed down, which totally suits me. Between us we've now taken the men out of the equation and regained control of the situation. This is a huge plus, the negative is however we're probably going to do a lot more than wrestle. It's possible that in the hours proceeding we can take some heat out of our situation. But I imagine we would both find this hard to do, some would see deescalation as a strength, others a weakness. My pride has gotten me into trouble over the years and I suspect it would here, so if things were to deescalate Olga. It would definitely be on you to extend the first olive branch and *Giggle* something tells me you're not the olive branch extending kind?
So I started off by saying this is a good idea and I believe it is, as depending on the other woman you can raise the stakes to a point where she walks away. If she don't you've regained control of the situation and depending on the personalities involved, a peaceful resolution is absolutely possible...I just don't genuinely believe that would of been the case between myself and Olga.
Now...watch Olga reply and disagree with my assessment of her ;D
Xoxo
Kate
The situation would be complicated. Kate, if you look like the photo in your profile gallery, then I'm taller, heavier, and, I'd guess, stronger than you. Would you challenge me if your physical attributes weren't in your favor? Let's pretend you and I have the same parameters. But I think you're too hasty in removing the man from the equation. He could have said (and most likely would have said), "Hey, Kate, are you chickening out? Why wait, let's sort this out right now." It often happens that we become hostages of the situation. Let me give you an example. A good friend of mine, a very sarcastic person, got into an argument at a bar with her friend, a real bitch like her. But they weren't planning on fighting, it was just an exchange of barbs.Their altercation attracted the attention of other bar patrons. The girls began to be actively encouraged, and each formed a support group.
I should mention here that the bar belonged to a former crime boss. He retired and focused on legitimate business, but the bar still had a boxing ring and hosted boxing and kickboxing matches on weekends.
So, two girls were calling each other names, escalating the conversation. You know how it goes. Slut, bitch, prostitute, and various other intimate details. It got to the point where one of them threatened to punch the other. The response she got was, "Try it, bitch." Then someone from the crowd suggested that they put on gloves and go into the ring. And then everyone went wild; the idea seemed brilliant to everyone except the girls themselves, but no one asked them. They were helped into the gloves and literally pushed into the ring. When the girls found themselves face to face in the ring, their desire to fight vanished. In fact, they both panicked, wanting to leave, wanting it all to stop. But their pride wouldn't let them. Besides, the crowd was roaring and demanding they get started. They were lucky: as they stood hesitantly facing each other in the ring, the bar owner appeared. He asked what the hell was going on. Then my friend turned to him and said they were being forced to fight. He got angry, told everyone to leave, and treated the girls to drinks on the house. They were just lucky the bar owner showed up just in time. If not, they probably would have had to start a fight, even though they didn't want to.
Now it's me and Kate again. Maybe her suggestion to meet later would have worked. Although it's hard to say. When I'm angry, I don't think clearly. In addition, there were witnesses in the room who could confirm that we fought fairly and, in addition, there would not have been a situation where I would say that I won, and Kate would start saying that she won. We could turn this all into a joke, yes, that's probably possible. But here, personality traits and the reason for the dispute come into play. The ideal option would be if Sasha or Ruslana showed up and said, "Girls, what are you doing? Maybe we should go get some coffee?"
But seriously, I don't know what I would have done. It really depends on the circumstances. Maybe I would have agreed and said, "Okay, see you later," or maybe I would have pushed you and demanded that we start a fight right now. I really don't know.
Hi Olga,
I get what you mean about the man trying to assert control over the situation to bring about the outcome he wants.
, I would have told him to "Fuck Off" and stay out of our personal business. Also if I did that, I think there is a chance you would have followed my lead in this matter and conveyed to him a similar message?
However the scenario I previously described was more for fun than based on my actual opinion of what would happen if we were to clash. Honestly Olga if you and me ever find ourselves face to face...I'm going to need to get my proverbial affairs in order. I agree that you would be the hot favourite to win.
Xoxo
Kate
PS
And yes, that admission just now was bitterly painful to write ;D
I think that now that we're both grown women, we can resist the manipulation of others. At least, I hope so. Of course, situations vary.
When I was a teenager, I was very dependent on the opinions of others. It was important to me what my friends thought of me and whether I was respected. There were times when, in order to maintain my own authority, under pressure from others, I did stupid and sometimes vile things.
Of course I've changed, now I don't care what anyone thinks of me (but is that really true?), and to manipulate me, you'd have to somehow stretch your imagination. I won't fall for a direct provocation like "What, are you chickening out?"
But if the threads of lies are woven skillfully enough, it is quite possible that I will make the wrong decision.
Unlike Kate, I'm not a strong-willed bitch; I can still be easily persuaded to replace a colleague at work, or to lend money :-[
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 21, 2025, 12:31:42 PM
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 21, 2025, 10:56:07 AM
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 10:03:30 AM
I once got into an argument with a girl at the gym. It wasn't like we were fighting, just arguing in a heated voice. Then one of the men we knew there suggested we settle the dispute with a wrestling match. He, as they say, challenged us. I understood that this was manipulation on his part, but I didn't want to back down. The other girl wasn't going to back down either. So we went onto the mat and started wrestling, and the men sat around and enjoyed the spectacle. It wasn't a fight, we respected each other, it was a fair grappling match. But it was the man who pushed us into it. He took advantage of the situation, saw that we were heated up by the argument, and added fuel to the fire.
Hi Olga,
I understand the predicament you found yourself in. But may I suggest a possible alternative course of action that might have with hindsight been a good idea? So Olga imagine it was you and me at the gym that day, we've heard the offer and I said this:
"Or alternatively Olga we could go back to my place, finish our conversation and settle things in private...anyway you like!"
Yes, I'm doubling down. I'm trying to increase the pressure of the situation to a point where the other woman finds her courage lacking and walks away. Which would totally be a victory for me :)
Now at a guess Olga, I suspect you might of said something like:
"Sounds good Kate! Shall we say 3:00pm?"
Yeah I don't think you would have backed down, which totally suits me. Between us we've now taken the men out of the equation and regained control of the situation. This is a huge plus, the negative is however we're probably going to do a lot more than wrestle. It's possible that in the hours proceeding we can take some heat out of our situation. But I imagine we would both find this hard to do, some would see deescalation as a strength, others a weakness. My pride has gotten me into trouble over the years and I suspect it would here, so if things were to deescalate Olga. It would definitely be on you to extend the first olive branch and *Giggle* something tells me you're not the olive branch extending kind?
So I started off by saying this is a good idea and I believe it is, as depending on the other woman you can raise the stakes to a point where she walks away. If she don't you've regained control of the situation and depending on the personalities involved, a peaceful resolution is absolutely possible...I just don't genuinely believe that would of been the case between myself and Olga.
Now...watch Olga reply and disagree with my assessment of her ;D
Xoxo
Kate
The situation would be complicated. Kate, if you look like the photo in your profile gallery, then I'm taller, heavier, and, I'd guess, stronger than you. Would you challenge me if your physical attributes weren't in your favor? Let's pretend you and I have the same parameters. But I think you're too hasty in removing the man from the equation. He could have said (and most likely would have said), "Hey, Kate, are you chickening out? Why wait, let's sort this out right now." It often happens that we become hostages of the situation. Let me give you an example. A good friend of mine, a very sarcastic person, got into an argument at a bar with her friend, a real bitch like her. But they weren't planning on fighting, it was just an exchange of barbs.Their altercation attracted the attention of other bar patrons. The girls began to be actively encouraged, and each formed a support group.
I should mention here that the bar belonged to a former crime boss. He retired and focused on legitimate business, but the bar still had a boxing ring and hosted boxing and kickboxing matches on weekends.
So, two girls were calling each other names, escalating the conversation. You know how it goes. Slut, bitch, prostitute, and various other intimate details. It got to the point where one of them threatened to punch the other. The response she got was, "Try it, bitch." Then someone from the crowd suggested that they put on gloves and go into the ring. And then everyone went wild; the idea seemed brilliant to everyone except the girls themselves, but no one asked them. They were helped into the gloves and literally pushed into the ring. When the girls found themselves face to face in the ring, their desire to fight vanished. In fact, they both panicked, wanting to leave, wanting it all to stop. But their pride wouldn't let them. Besides, the crowd was roaring and demanding they get started. They were lucky: as they stood hesitantly facing each other in the ring, the bar owner appeared. He asked what the hell was going on. Then my friend turned to him and said they were being forced to fight. He got angry, told everyone to leave, and treated the girls to drinks on the house. They were just lucky the bar owner showed up just in time. If not, they probably would have had to start a fight, even though they didn't want to.
Now it's me and Kate again. Maybe her suggestion to meet later would have worked. Although it's hard to say. When I'm angry, I don't think clearly. In addition, there were witnesses in the room who could confirm that we fought fairly and, in addition, there would not have been a situation where I would say that I won, and Kate would start saying that she won. We could turn this all into a joke, yes, that's probably possible. But here, personality traits and the reason for the dispute come into play. The ideal option would be if Sasha or Ruslana showed up and said, "Girls, what are you doing? Maybe we should go get some coffee?"
But seriously, I don't know what I would have done. It really depends on the circumstances. Maybe I would have agreed and said, "Okay, see you later," or maybe I would have pushed you and demanded that we start a fight right now. I really don't know.
Hi Olga,
I get what you mean about the man trying to assert control over the situation to bring about the outcome he wants.
, I would have told him to "Fuck Off" and stay out of our personal business. Also if I did that, I think there is a chance you would have followed my lead in this matter and conveyed to him a similar message?
However the scenario I previously described was more for fun than based on my actual opinion of what would happen if we were to clash. Honestly Olga if you and me ever find ourselves face to face...I'm going to need to get my proverbial affairs in order. I agree that you would be the hot favourite to win.
Xoxo
Kate
PS
And yes, that admission just now was bitterly painful to write ;D
I think that now that we're both grown women, we can resist the manipulation of others. At least, I hope so. Of course, situations vary.
When I was a teenager, I was very dependent on the opinions of others. It was important to me what my friends thought of me and whether I was respected. There were times when, in order to maintain my own authority, under pressure from others, I did stupid and sometimes vile things.
Of course I've changed, now I don't care what anyone thinks of me (but is that really true?), and to manipulate me, you'd have to somehow stretch your imagination. I won't fall for a direct provocation like "What, are you chickening out?"
But if the threads of lies are woven skillfully enough, it is quite possible that I will make the wrong decision.
Unlike Kate, I'm not a strong-willed bitch; I can still be easily persuaded to replace a colleague at work, or to lend money :-[
Hi Olga,
You should definitely work on that will of yours, I'm sure you have the inner strength to say "No".
However teenagers of all nationalities and races make bad decisions, it's a rite of passage. I myself went to an all girls school and I made plenty of bad decisions. With me it's my aforementioned pride, I find it hard to near impossible to step away from conflict with other women. For me stepping away is showing weakness and if I show weakness, I become a target. That is what my life at an all girls school taught me and yes, this is not a great life lesson...but is it really wrong? Is this life lesson of mine wrong?
Xoxo
Kate
I think Sasha and Kate would be perfect rivals. One has a pride that won't let her back down, the other has a stubbornness that won't let her back down. It turns out that you are hostages to your own qualities. No one will back down, simply because they won't back down. I don't know which of you two would win, but the fight would be uncompromising.
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Thus, we came to the conclusion that everything depends on the circumstances. Then let's get back to the original topic. If a man wants you to fight for his entertainment, you say "no," but if certain circumstances arise, you say "maybe," and maybe even "yes."
For example, this is your boss and he doesn't know who to give a promotion to, you or your colleague, and he suggests resolving this issue with a fight. Or it's a potential employer, and he offers you to fight with another girl, since he can only hire one of you.
The conditions are different, the prize for the winner is different, but the idea is the same. You'll fight another girl, and the man will watch and enjoy it.
What do you say, bitches? ::)
First of all, don't call me a bitch. :)
Second of all, any boss suggesting a fight as a means to secure a promotion would be fired from any legitimate company. If it were two exotic dancers or sex workers, yeah, I suppose that might happen.
My boyfriend has told me that he would love to see me in a fight, but wouldn't want for me to get hurt. It's a great topic for foreplay and works really well for us ;) , but not realistic as the other girl and I would get hurt, so it's a fantasy of his, separating the spectacle from the consequences.
So for me the answer is no, I would not fight for his (or any man's) entertainment, and can't imagine any circumstance that would cause me to realistically change my mind IRL.
What's wrong with you? He'll fire you and sue you. I was asking about something completely different. Would you agree to such terms? What happens to the boss depends on what he's the boss of. It's unlikely that anyone would suggest such a way to get a promotion to clerks or factory workers. I could name industries where this is entirely possible. But that's not the point.
Let me repeat, I am talking about those situations when you are offered to fight voluntarily, and not forced to do so by threats or blackmail.
What's wrong with me, what's wrong with YOU! If you do such a thing, he now has control over you, and what's to prevent him to do similar things in the future, always proposing that for some reward that you fight another girl 'voluntarily'. The situations which you describe (fighting for a promotion, fighting to get hired) would not get me fired or sued, but it might get him fired or demoted because he is being manipulative and serving his own needs and not the company's needs. Maybe it's different in Russia.
You misunderstood me. I was suggesting we discuss your actions in this situation, not whether the proposal itself is legal or what the possible consequences might be.
And yes, in Russia everything is different ;)
You responded to Kate on this topic, and mentioned a ticket to a concert of your favorite artist or some thing that you really want to possess. or a man has something that you really want, and he is willing to give it to you if you win over another girl who also really wants to get this thing. That is totally different from a case where the man is your boss or potential boss. I would totally fight over Taylor Swift tickets! ;D There'd be no long term angle for him to get me to fight again, unless he had something special that I really wanted.
Fighting over Taylor Swift tickets :o
Ew....Alix! You're so trashy and have zero taste :P :-*
Xoxo
Kate
Say that to my face, Kate, you brunette, trashy skank, and I'll send you home with your hair in a bag!
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 10:03:30 AM
I once got into an argument with a girl at the gym. It wasn't like we were fighting, just arguing in a heated voice. Then one of the men we knew there suggested we settle the dispute with a wrestling match. He, as they say, challenged us. I understood that this was manipulation on his part, but I didn't want to back down. The other girl wasn't going to back down either. So we went onto the mat and started wrestling, and the men sat around and enjoyed the spectacle. It wasn't a fight, we respected each other, it was a fair grappling match. But it was the man who pushed us into it. He took advantage of the situation, saw that we were heated up by the argument, and added fuel to the fire.
Interesting situation. Did you win the match? What did the guys say after?
Quote from: KateA - The Devil In Heels on September 20, 2025, 02:11:04 PM
How about we take this discussion in a slightly different direction and give our thoughts about when we would fight for our man?
For me there really is only one, maybe two scenarios (But scenario number two is a huge maybe).
Scenario One:
Another woman keeps propositioning your man. Your man has behaved impeccably and politely declined her advances more than once and he has been honest and kept you in the loop as to what she has been doing. The first time may of been an honest mistake, being charitable a second time might be down to our man being clumsy with his words and not spelling out he is taken. A third time? Well at this point me and her absolutely will be having a little private girl talk! And if the other woman in this scenario was known to me and I knew; she knew he was taken? Then of course there are no warnings. She has made a declaration of war and I happily accept!
Scenario Two:
Some bitch, probably at his work place is using her position to make his life a living hell. He is doing what he can while working under the confines of office politics. He approaches me and asks for my support and assistance. This is tricky, you can't just pick a fight with your man's boss. Maybe at a workplace event you can get an opportunity to speak with her woman to woman? Maybe a mutual agreement to discuss things further in more suitable setting can be agreed? Or perhaps the real answer here is that beyond love and support, a catfight with his boss would be useless. As honestly is his situation realistically going to improve if I kick his bitch bosses ass?
Oh one final caveat: In either scenario my man would be left at home, as personally inviting him to watch is indulgent and distasteful. Well at least for me :)
So have I missed anything girls?
Xoxo
Kate
In the first scenario, I would have a conflict with this bitch after her first attempt to flirt with my man. And I would have easily gone into a fight against her.
In the second scenario, I would act in such a way that my conflict against this bitch would not create problems at work for my boyfriend. If I was absolutely sure that my conflict against this bitch would not create problems for my boyfriend, then I would escalate the conflict against this bitch.
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Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 10:03:30 AM
I once got into an argument with a girl at the gym. It wasn't like we were fighting, just arguing in a heated voice. Then one of the men we knew there suggested we settle the dispute with a wrestling match. He, as they say, challenged us. I understood that this was manipulation on his part, but I didn't want to back down. The other girl wasn't going to back down either. So we went onto the mat and started wrestling, and the men sat around and enjoyed the spectacle. It wasn't a fight, we respected each other, it was a fair grappling match. But it was the man who pushed us into it. He took advantage of the situation, saw that we were heated up by the argument, and added fuel to the fire.
Interesting situation. Did you win the match? What did the guys say after?
Yes, I won. I wouldn't say it was easy. But the victory was absolute. No one would call it a draw. Well, what can the guys say? I liked it.
i do not mind if my boyfriend has sets up or suggest i fight someone but it has to be on my terms
i am not into boxing in anyway nor into broken bones or blood i do not mind punch just not to the face nor or nails rt biting there either anyplace is ok
if she has a problem then there will be no fight
Quote from: Olga on September 22, 2025, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: Capguy on September 21, 2025, 05:21:41 PM
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 10:03:30 AM
I once got into an argument with a girl at the gym. It wasn't like we were fighting, just arguing in a heated voice. Then one of the men we knew there suggested we settle the dispute with a wrestling match. He, as they say, challenged us. I understood that this was manipulation on his part, but I didn't want to back down. The other girl wasn't going to back down either. So we went onto the mat and started wrestling, and the men sat around and enjoyed the spectacle. It wasn't a fight, we respected each other, it was a fair grappling match. But it was the man who pushed us into it. He took advantage of the situation, saw that we were heated up by the argument, and added fuel to the fire.
Interesting situation. Did you win the match? What did the guys say after?
Yes, I won. I wouldn't say it was easy. But the victory was absolute. No one would call it a draw. Well, what can the guys say? I liked it.
Great. Congratulations. How did the girl you beat respond? You and her ever talk about it? Did the guy who set it up cheer for either of you, or try to hit on you after? On other thing - howdid you win? Did she submit? To what hold?
Quote from: Capguy on September 22, 2025, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: Olga on September 22, 2025, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: Capguy on September 21, 2025, 05:21:41 PM
Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 10:03:30 AM
I once got into an argument with a girl at the gym. It wasn't like we were fighting, just arguing in a heated voice. Then one of the men we knew there suggested we settle the dispute with a wrestling match. He, as they say, challenged us. I understood that this was manipulation on his part, but I didn't want to back down. The other girl wasn't going to back down either. So we went onto the mat and started wrestling, and the men sat around and enjoyed the spectacle. It wasn't a fight, we respected each other, it was a fair grappling match. But it was the man who pushed us into it. He took advantage of the situation, saw that we were heated up by the argument, and added fuel to the fire.
Interesting situation. Did you win the match? What did the guys say after?
Yes, I won. I wouldn't say it was easy. But the victory was absolute. No one would call it a draw. Well, what can the guys say? I liked it.
Great. Congratulations. How did the girl you beat respond? You and her ever talk about it? Did the guy who set it up cheer for either of you, or try to hit on you after? On other thing - howdid you win? Did she submit? To what hold?
It was just a friendly fight. We weren't trying to kill each other :) There's not much to describe. We were wrestling on the ground. The usual sweaty, close-quarters brawl. I prefer standing fights. I don't like ground fighting. But I do have some favorite techniques for the ground game. The guillotine, the triangle, several choke variations. My favorite is the armbar. I know many ways to get into this hold. In this fight, the victory condition was to force my opponent to submit five times. I submitted her at least three times using an armbar.
The men watched our struggle in silence, not encouraging anyone, so as not to spoil their relationships. They only applauded when one of us executed a successful technical move.
We have a great relationship with this girl, she just knows for sure that I am stronger than her.
But the man who provoked us is a real dog (chases after every skirt). I don't date guys like that.
I would think it. true that the premise "A fight at the whim of a man" is true look at all the MMA and UFC franchises which are predominantly male ownership and dictates women to fight to the benefit of lining the owners pocket book and to give the mostly male crowd entertainment. ???
Quote from: Olga on September 24, 2025, 11:01:27 AM
Quote from: Capguy on September 22, 2025, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: Olga on September 22, 2025, 02:20:05 PM
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Quote from: Olga on September 21, 2025, 10:03:30 AM
I once got into an argument with a girl at the gym. It wasn't like we were fighting, just arguing in a heated voice. Then one of the men we knew there suggested we settle the dispute with a wrestling match. He, as they say, challenged us. I understood that this was manipulation on his part, but I didn't want to back down. The other girl wasn't going to back down either. So we went onto the mat and started wrestling, and the men sat around and enjoyed the spectacle. It wasn't a fight, we respected each other, it was a fair grappling match. But it was the man who pushed us into it. He took advantage of the situation, saw that we were heated up by the argument, and added fuel to the fire.
Interesting situation. Did you win the match? What did the guys say after?
Yes, I won. I wouldn't say it was easy. But the victory was absolute. No one would call it a draw. Well, what can the guys say? I liked it.
Great. Congratulations. How did the girl you beat respond? You and her ever talk about it? Did the guy who set it up cheer for either of you, or try to hit on you after? On other thing - howdid you win? Did she submit? To what hold?
It was just a friendly fight. We weren't trying to kill each other :) There's not much to describe. We were wrestling on the ground. The usual sweaty, close-quarters brawl. I prefer standing fights. I don't like ground fighting. But I do have some favorite techniques for the ground game. The guillotine, the triangle, several choke variations. My favorite is the armbar. I know many ways to get into this hold. In this fight, the victory condition was to force my opponent to submit five times. I submitted her at least three times using an armbar.
The men watched our struggle in silence, not encouraging anyone, so as not to spoil their relationships. They only applauded when one of us executed a successful technical move.
We have a great relationship with this girl, she just knows for sure that I am stronger than her.
But the man who provoked us is a real dog (chases after every skirt). I don't date guys like that.
Sound like a great match. I would have loved to see it. Just a couplemore questions please. How long were you wrestling? You said you got 5 submissions from her. Did she get any? Were you ever worried she might take you in front of the guys?
Fight at the whim of a man? Of course not. I'm not some kind of toy :o But to be honest, it all depends on the man. If this is a handsome millionaire, then I'm ready to fight for him with any bitch ;D
Quote from: NekoKitsune on October 03, 2025, 09:18:48 PM
Fight at the whim of a man? Of course not. I'm not some kind of toy :o But to be honest, it all depends on the man. If this is a handsome millionaire, then I'm ready to fight for him with any bitch ;D
A very practical approach
Quote from: Alexandra X on October 05, 2025, 09:17:37 AM
Quote from: Olga on October 04, 2025, 02:11:35 PM
Quote from: NekoKitsune on October 03, 2025, 09:18:48 PM
Fight at the whim of a man? Of course not. I'm not some kind of toy :o But to be honest, it all depends on the man. If this is a handsome millionaire, then I'm ready to fight for him with any bitch ;D
A very practical approach
What about you? Would you fight over a handsome millionaire?
The chances of me meeting a handsome millionaire are so slim that I won't even discuss it.
Quote from: Olga on October 05, 2025, 11:54:43 AM
Quote from: Alexandra X on October 05, 2025, 09:17:37 AM
Quote from: Olga on October 04, 2025, 02:11:35 PM
Quote from: NekoKitsune on October 03, 2025, 09:18:48 PM
Fight at the whim of a man? Of course not. I'm not some kind of toy :o But to be honest, it all depends on the man. If this is a handsome millionaire, then I'm ready to fight for him with any bitch ;D
A very practical approach
What about you? Would you fight over a handsome millionaire?
The chances of me meeting a handsome millionaire are so slim that I won't even discuss it.
Not sure about the chances of meeting a handsome one... but there are lots of millionaires out there.
Quote from: Alexandra X on October 06, 2025, 08:16:50 PM
Quote from: NekoKitsune on October 03, 2025, 09:18:48 PM
Fight at the whim of a man? Of course not. I'm not some kind of toy :o But to be honest, it all depends on the man. If this is a handsome millionaire, then I'm ready to fight for him with any bitch ;D
That makes sense. Again, we've come to the conclusion that no, although maybe, and depending on the circumstances, yes. ::)
Well, yes, it's easy to buy a whore with money
I don't understand. I bet all the girls fought over boys? You probably pulled each other's hair out at school over guys. But if a guy asks you about it, you categorically refuse? What if he really loves both of you, you and your rival? He can't choose, is that so hard to imagine? If I really loved a guy, I would not hesitate to start a fight with any bitch, regardless of whether he was watching us or we met in the woods and without witnesses. I wish he was watching us, so that bitch wouldn't be able to dispute the outcome of the fight. I would make her cry and beg for mercy, make her say she'll never talk to my boyfriend again. I would want him to hear it.