I have recently been coming to terms with the enjoyment I have of watching two beautiful women compete, both physically and/or sexually. It took a long time to accept that this fetish is part of what I like to see and that there many many others like me, given the output of videos and art out there on the internet. This forum especially has been helpful in showing there are like-minded people with similar interests
However, I think part of why it took so long to accept was the shame I felt in having a fetish like this. You tell it to anyone and it can very easily be misunderstood as you like seeing women get hurt or harm each other, and understandably to an outsider it might seem like that, but it's not true at all. At the very least, it's painful and not fun for me to see someone else in pain and I avoid that kind of media, and I imagine it's the same for you. Anyways, it's hard to talk about this to people, especially to partners who want to better know your fantasies
This reprint of an article written in the 60's helps give an idea of why it's enjoyed (https://www.deviantart.com/takao-nakano/journal/The-Psychology-of-the-Catfight-Fetish-877537468 (https://www.deviantart.com/takao-nakano/journal/The-Psychology-of-the-Catfight-Fetish-877537468)) but I didn't find it too helpful in helping understand why this fetish is
Does anyone here have an idea why we like female competition so much and care to share? Or maybe share works by people like psychologists or existing forum threads that explore why we enjoy this?
Thank you for your time,
from a nervous guy understanding his inclinations
Josephinex, you ask the $64,000 question (I know I'm really dating myself with that reference!).
I found a fcf link to an old talk show, Sally Jessy Raphael that dealt with female fighting: https://www.freecatfights.com/forums/index.php?topic=28879.msg209944#msg209944
Here is the surviving youtube link to that show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcdrsQC4vIQ&list=UU56RueOWTks7ssInG55Il1A&index=2 The link to part 2 has been taken down by yt. I remember those episodes from years ago. I seem to remember seeing an interview with a female psychologist about why guys like to see two girls fight and wrestle. I remember her saying that in some ways, when two women fight up close, it's not unlike seeing women in a sexual encounter. That may be BS, but that's what I remember her saying.
As a straight guy, I get sexually aroused by catfights, especially if clothes get ripped off to expose their goods. Not sure why, but I do. However, no interest whatsoever in UFC/MMA stuff. I find that upsetting, actually.
"As a straight guy, I get sexually aroused by catfights, especially if clothes get ripped off to expose their goods. Not sure why, but I do. However, no interest whatsoever in UFC/MMA stuff. I find that upsetting, actually."
Facts. I asked my brother once when you think of Woman UFC/MMA whats the 1st thing that comes to your mind? and........ He said "BRUTAL"
I bust out with laughter because thats the perfect way to describe that shid and the way they be looking after their matches. He has watched some Socal Fights and Suitefights matches with me and was entertained by the catfight matches. Even my cousins like the catfight matches and hate the UFC/MMA shid.
for me, it's about the confidence - two women standing toe to toe and being confident they can kick each others ass! as long as it's a fair fight, that level of confidence to fight is sexy!
Quote from: sinclairfan on April 12, 2023, 06:34:45 PM
...after they clearly knock an opponent out, they try to out-sprint the ref to the prone loser and get some final shots in ...
think this is just that they're taught to fight until the bell, and not every ref will call it the same way. there's definitely scenarios where it's 100% clear KO though, for those i agree don't keep hitting
I think it's all a sexual thing. I always find the loser in the f/f fight the sexiest and it's a definite sexual turn-on for me. I don't think it's about the violence - that is just a path to get where I want the end of the story to go. But it is frowned upon in polite circles and this forum is almost the only place I can discuss it.
I'm happy with the thoughts shared so far, thank you all :)
Quote from: Sandman13 on April 12, 2023, 10:12:02 PM
I think it's all a sexual thing. I always find the loser in the f/f fight the sexiest and it's a definite sexual turn-on for me. I don't think it's about the violence - that is just a path to get where I want the end of the story to go. But it is frowned upon in polite circles and this forum is almost the only place I can discuss it.
I agree that this can be all seen as a sexual thing, so maybe a better question would be why you (the reader of this comment) personally like catfights/sexfights, like in Sandman13's and Horny-Jew's reply. Maybe then I can find a better answer to my own question
For straight guys, IMHO there is a connection between this fetish and a strong, competitive perhaps combative woman in your past -- most likely your very early years. Could be an aunt, a sister, but most likely Mom. I'm no social scientist by any means, but over the years I've read lots and lots of posts, and it seems to me that guys who are into this have this characteristic in common. That was a good enough explanation for me, and I've found considerable peace in this rationalization.
Also, we seem to have amazing memories. I doubt that this is connected in some way, but it certainly appears to be true.
As far as the type of competition that one prefers, well that my well have to do with the kind of relationship that you had with that woman.
It's just something that turns you on sexually. The emotions of a female fight, wrestling, catfight, when two rivals do not see and are not focused on anything other than each other is just a bomb. Plus, when they fight over men, and you know that after a fight with one of them, you will have sex. And whoever made love to a woman after her fight knows how indescribable it is..
I've always seen the catfight/wrestling/sexfighting thing as something that's transgressive. And men and women find this exciting, because if a woman is so moved to fight, to break these norms, it is fascinating and arousing.
If we all knew the definitive answer none of us would ever ask the question I guess. All I know is that from a very early age, as early as I can remember, ive enjoyed female wrestling and catfighting. It was there from the very beginning as a sexual turn on, there before I ever even saw a picture or a clip of 2 women fighting. What I'm getting at is for me, and I can only speak for myself, I was born with it, it came naturally to me.
Born with it sounds right for me too. Girls fighting would excite my mind long before it was possible to excite me physically. At my age in the distant past any little spat would suffice, but with the explosion of material both real and produced it's possible to pick and choose. In real fights I hate to see blood and would never wish to see anyone hurt. In wrestling it has to be competitive. Two girls going through the motions is as much of a turn off as two ladies really trying to beat each is a turn on.
I think my enjoyment was due to several strong women in my life though to my knowledge, none fought. Also, very religious family where the only way you could see an unclothed woman was in the catalogues or wrestling magazines. I think it was also being around a VERY few women who kind of understood. I remember in eighth grade a girl I knew and had known for years confessed to me she wrestled. And so it goes.
Quote from: presenterfan on April 14, 2023, 12:35:35 PM
Born with it sounds right for me too. Girls fighting would excite my mind long before it was possible to excite me physically. At my age in the distant past any little spat would suffice, but with the explosion of material both real and produced it's possible to pick and choose. In real fights I hate to see blood and would never wish to see anyone hurt. In wrestling it has to be competitive. Two girls going through the motions is as much of a turn off as two ladies really trying to beat each is a turn on.
I agree completely, the wrestling has to be competitive! That's what I like about DWW, ASFILM, Festelle. Hard to find anything made like that now.
I think the psychologists explanation that women wrestling or fighting is close to sex is wrong. My evidence is if we had the chance to see lesbians having sex or watching two women fight we are going to pick the two women fighting. Of course not all guys are going to do that so maybe there is some crossover from the guys that watch lesbians, but I would say we are a unique and fairly specific fetish. I have always thought it is a combination of our animal instinct and early sexual experiences. In my case, long before I saw any pictures of naked women or porn, I saw pictures in magazines of women fighting, gorgeous women in movies and TV fighting, and actual girls fighting. Those were formative experiences. For guys who didn't have those experiences perhaps there is something else. I think what is especially interesting is how into catfights women are. I think they live a bit vicariously through the fighters themselves and it is a HUGE release. They are so used to sniping at each other or battling socially that having the ability to actually confront your rival I think is freeing.
This is a very interesting topic of conversation as I have asked myself WHY for years. It goes back to a very early age for me,the origins of which I can not pinpoint.
These contributions are great, thanks again to everyone
I find Bear's answer very interesting. I knew many combative/competitive women in my formative years so maybe it could provide some answer in my case but might not be for everyon
Quote from: Bear on April 13, 2023, 02:11:16 AM
For straight guys, IMHO there is a connection between this fetish and a strong, competitive perhaps combative woman in your past -- most likely your very early years. Could be an aunt, a sister, but most likely Mom. I'm no social scientist by any means, but over the years I've read lots and lots of posts, and it seems to me that guys who are into this have this characteristic in common. That was a good enough explanation for me, and I've found considerable peace in this rationalization.
Also, we seem to have amazing memories. I doubt that this is connected in some way, but it certainly appears to be true.
As far as the type of competition that one prefers, well that my well have to do with the kind of relationship that you had with that woman.
It seems that a lot of us have this interest vert early, which is interesting. Does anyone know a person who got into it later in life?
I have analyzed the psychology of it
Myself and did alot of reading and came to this conclusion. It has to do with the selecting a mate process. As humans we are prewired to choose a mate that will be the strongest gene pool to further spread our seed. I think many guys are interested in catfights cause it defines who the superior woman is. Personally I always find myself more attracted to the lady who wins her fight
Quote from: jon222 on April 21, 2023, 04:13:08 PM
As humans we are prewired to choose a mate that will be the strongest gene pool to further spread our seed.
No we aren't. We are prewired to chose a mate we find most attractive.
"Let's see, Beyonce or Queen Kong? Think I'll go with Beyonce."
Lol. Try reading a little more. Called survival of the fittest. They teach it in elementary school
Quote from: jon222 on April 22, 2023, 10:57:48 PM
Lol. Try reading a little more. Called survival of the fittest. They teach it in elementary school
Survival of the fittest has little to do with mate selection.
Sexual selection is based on the struggle to reproduce rather than the struggle to survive. Peacocks with extravagant tails will have more children, since they are more successful at attracting a mate.
No male lion ever said "I'm gonna fuck that lioness because she's the fastest runner."
No guy was ever attracted to an ugly woman compared to a beautiful one simply because she could bench press more.
You tell me to read a little more. Well you seem to have a rudimentary knowledge of Darwin's ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES (1859) but complete ignorance of THE DESCENT OF MAN AND SELECTION IN RELATION TO SEX (1871)
Survival of the fittest also speaks to the unconscious desire for men to spread their seed with the strongest offspring possible to pass down the dna. That plays into sexual selection
Quote from: jon222 on April 23, 2023, 07:18:33 PM
Survival of the fittest also speaks to the unconscious desire for men to spread their seed with the strongest offspring possible to pass down the dna. That plays into sexual selection
No, it speaks to males spreading their seed to the most possible mates. As Darwin states mating is about quantity not quality.
So it looks were equal do you think most guys would prefer a lady who loses her catfights or one who wins? I think most guys would prefer the lady who wins her catfights. Disagree?
Quote from: jon222 on April 23, 2023, 08:24:35 PM
So it looks were equal do you think most guys would prefer a lady who loses her catfights or one who wins? I think most guys would prefer the lady who wins her catfights. Disagree?
The desirability of a woman based upon how good a fighter she is, is quite frankly, ridiculous.
Cool and I think your view is ridiculous. Nice talk
Did you see Kathy Bates beat the crap our of Olivia Culpo? That Bates is one sexy mama!
Yikes!
Personally I want the fighter I find more attractive to win, tho I am more interested in the competition itself rather than the result. I am ok with a draw between equals n i think i prefer that result
tho I don't think I can agree with the survival of the fittest argument but doesn't mean that it doesn't have merit for some people
When it comes to the views of some people, they have a tendency to only put forward arguments that support there own political doctrines. They totally ignore things like science (pheramones). Upbringing, Romance etc. Regardless this is not supposed to be that type of chat. Many fans grow up feeling a sense of guilt over liking catfights. Its not about wanting the winning woman or the losing woman. At the end of the day most people can seperate the fantasy from the reality so its about the erotic conflict of 2 ladies ina hot yet tabboo situation.
Regarding the whole darwin discussion, I think I said there was an element of this. Not that it was the sole reason it is a turn on for us. If you assume we descended from Gorilla's, at some point we probably did want to mate with Queen Kong over Beyonce. And I think to some extent it is still true for women. I mean these huge football players, boxers, MMA guys are the ugliest cusses around and women are swooning for them. But over the last XXXXXX years of evolution we have added a few characteristics to our desire to reproduce. And it is really varried. Some guys are into Queen Kong. And it isn't just survival of the fittest. Lots of people are turned on by the looser. It really is complex and we are trying to break it down to something simple.
Quote from: lumberjack66 on April 18, 2023, 01:55:59 AM
I think the psychologists explanation that women wrestling or fighting is close to sex is wrong. My evidence is if we had the chance to see lesbians having sex or watching two women fight we are going to pick the two women fighting.
I agree totally with the comments from Lumberjack's. earlier post in this thread. Certainly fights on film and Tv were much prized. As I.was excited by girls fighting long before I was able to be aroused by it, the early memories can't be discussed here. I also think there is no correlation between fighting and sex between ladies. That said there is perhaps unintended intimacy between ladies when they come together. When women wrestle topless this is obvious by their erect nipples. When women fight i imaging the same reaction is hidden by bras and tops. On the net it can be seen that girls will try to provoke a fight by pushing, or bumping breasts together. When girls fight on nights out ladies often face off , tight dresses having ridden up both with their thongs on display. This is not an invitation to make out but certainly a challenge to go at it woman to woman.
Quote from: popadoc4 on April 14, 2023, 10:58:46 PM
Quote from: presenterfan on April 14, 2023, 12:35:35 PM
Born with it sounds right for me too. Girls fighting would excite my mind long before it was possible to excite me physically. At my age in the distant past any little spat would suffice, but with the explosion of material both real and produced it's possible to pick and choose. In real fights I hate to see blood and would never wish to see anyone hurt. In wrestling it has to be competitive. Two girls going through the motions is as much of a turn off as two ladies really trying to beat each is a turn on.
I agree completely, the wrestling has to be competitive! That's what I like about DWW, ASFILM, Festelle. Hard to find anything made like that now.
Try FOXYCOMBAT run by HANA who was the sec. @ DWW Execellent
Is it ok for a nurse to weigh in? Not that nursing gives me any qualifications for this topic. I'm just a science nerd who loves to read and talk science.
I think the idea that prehistoric women have competed with each other for men and men favor successful female fighters is modern male fantasy rather than the outcome of Darwinian natural selection. In fact, in most complex species (i.e. mammals), it's the males who compete and the females are selective :). Rin753 is correct. For males, it's about quantity. Females look for quality. Females are attracted to which males can provide the best resources for offspring to survive. That's why we like jocks, rock stars, men with status and power, and rich guys. Males are driven to reproduce as much as they possibly can. The male elk that wins the antler fight in rutting season will try to boff every female in the harem. It's a similar process in most species.
It is believed that natural selection has favored women NOT fighting for the simple reason that we are critically valuable in birthing and raising children to risk serious injury or death. Men, on the other hand, are more expendable, so they live high risk, violent lives.
I think if men inherited genes from ancient ancestors that specifically coded for sexual arousal by female fighters, it would have been obvious throughout human history. Also, I know many guys here have fantasies about their women, including mothers, getting defeated. I don't see how this fits natural selection.
So, I think to understand catfight fantasies, we have to learn more about very early sexual development. I suspect there is some truth to the childhood imprint theory, where an experience or image (pro wrestling, Raquel Welch cavewoman fight, etc.) during a sensitive period in brain development, makes a lasting impression in the sexual stimulation part of the brain and fully blooms during puberty. We really know little about sexuality. It's an interesting topic and I could be persuaded to change my mind with new evidence.
You may enjoy this article about evolution of human mating by a social psychologist at Duke University.
https://www.wondriumdaily.com/mating-through-evolution-how-men-and-women-choose-partners/
Hello, bringing this up again. I found a new word that may describe this fetish we have: agonophilia (https://www.kinkyhow.com/agonophilia/). what do you guys think? is it accurate as a broad term for what we like?
the foundation of many sexual interests and fetishes can often be traced back to formative experiences or exposures. these do not necessarily have to be inherently sexual but can evolve into a sexualized interest over time....there is also the role of power dynamics in sexual arousal and fetish development... the fascination of female competition stems from the intrinsic human interest in social hierarchies and the demonstration of physical or psychological prowess. apart from that the concept of taboo also plays a significant role. what is deemed forbidden or outside societal norms acquires an increased allure. the deviation from mainstream sexual interest adds a layer of excitement and uniqueness...
Quote from: daz on April 24, 2023, 12:11:49 AM
When it comes to the views of some people, they have a tendency to only put forward arguments that support there own political doctrines. They totally ignore things like science (pheramones). Upbringing, Romance etc. Regardless this is not supposed to be that type of chat. Many fans grow up feeling a sense of guilt over liking catfights. Its not about wanting the winning woman or the losing woman. At the end of the day most people can seperate the fantasy from the reality so its about the erotic conflict of 2 ladies ina hot yet tabboo situation.
I'm not sure about the "sense of guilt," rather to me it's more of a feeling of isolation or feeling alone. For years I thought I was the only one who got a thrill out of seeing two women fight. It wasn't until I reached the age of 18 or 19, and could do the occasional visit to the adult bookstore, where I discovered a mag or two devoted to girls wrestling. Of course, this was years before the internet. I then realized there were others who felt the same as I did. Through the occasional mag add for female wrestling videos, and outfits like Crystal, I discovered the catfight community was much larger than I realized. But it was the internet that really opened my eyes to the extent of the catfight phenomenon. And of course the advent of cell phones with cameras that allowed real fights to be recorded and shared via the net showed just how large the community truly is.
Quote from: nehawrestler on January 21, 2024, 06:51:44 PM
the foundation of many sexual interests and fetishes can often be traced back to formative experiences or exposures. these do not necessarily have to be inherently sexual but can evolve into a sexualized interest over time....there is also the role of power dynamics in sexual arousal and fetish development... the fascination of female competition stems from the intrinsic human interest in social hierarchies and the demonstration of physical or psychological prowess. apart from that the concept of taboo also plays a significant role. what is deemed forbidden or outside societal norms acquires an increased allure. the deviation from mainstream sexual interest adds a layer of excitement and uniqueness...
This is one of the best written and most accurate explanations of this fetish that I've ever read. Short and to the point -- no BS.
the foundation of many sexual interests and fetishes can often be traced back to formative experiences or exposures. these do not necessarily have to be inherently sexual but can evolve into a sexualized interest over time....there is also the role of power dynamics in sexual arousal and fetish development... the fascination of female competition stems from the intrinsic human interest in social hierarchies and the demonstration of physical or psychological prowess. apart from that the concept of taboo also plays a significant role. what is deemed forbidden or outside societal norms acquires an increased allure. the deviation from mainstream sexual interest adds a layer of excitement and uniqueness...
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Oh definitely my first exposure was from watching the cop tv show chips as a toddler and they had the mud wrestling scene on it. It woke something up in me at 5 or 6 years old that is still with me to this day lol. I was mesmerized and loved it at that age haha, even though I was nowhere near starting puberty yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04yCRHXum-Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04yCRHXum-Y) (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/04yCRHXum-Y/maxresdefault.jpg)
Oh definitely my first exposure was from watching the cop tv show chips as a toddler and they had the mud wrestling scene on it. It woke something up in me at 5 or 6 years old that is still with me to this day lol. I was mesmerized and loved it at that age haha, even though I was nowhere near starting puberty yet
So, was that an episode of CHiPs, Sheriff Lobo or Sledge Hammer? ;D
Love these conversations! After my own self reflection, here is my theory for myself. I remember being under 10 years old and getting really anxious seeing things fight, like dogs or I remember horses on some TV show. I also discovered masterbation pre pubescent and for some reason I drfted to masturbating to these fights that made me so anxious to view. Well fold in puberty and happening to come across a TV show with female oil wrestling that added sexiness to my fight anxiety and feelings were multiplied. I also developed a foot fetish at that same young age, so add another muplication! Oil wrestling soon turned into loving cat fights and I've been 'enjoying' them for about 40 years now.
Quote from: Hairpullfan on January 23, 2024, 06:32:22 AM
Love these conversations! After my own self reflection, here is my theory for myself. I remember being under 10 years old and getting really anxious seeing things fight, like dogs or I remember horses on some TV show. I also discovered masterbation pre pubescent and for some reason I drfted to masturbating to these fights that made me so anxious to view. Well fold in puberty and happening to come across a TV show with female oil wrestling that added sexiness to my fight anxiety and feelings were multiplied. I also developed a foot fetish at that same young age, so add another muplication! Oil wrestling soon turned into loving cat fights and I've been 'enjoying' them for about 40 years now.
I see myself here again. I too was initially excited by fights in the animal kingdom, in stories and fairy tales or by sporting competitions. Sexual fantasies grew with magazines in the 90s and the Internet a decade later. Today, hair pulling, scratching and pinching is one of my favorite tactics in real female fights.
The issue boils down to how little we really understand genetic coding. How vital information is coded molecularly into the DNA and then read out by the neurons in our brains. It's a very complicated but well know to the chemical receptors that trigger the brain "mind". Most of this is just chemical memory and can be easily pass down by chemical transfer by each new generation ie DNA for genetic information memory. That in the early child brain development is when must of the chemical memory is transferred to the brain neurons. This is why each species have similar genetic traits of functions. Im not sure if I am expressing this right in a few sentences. but it is my two cents of this wonderful subject that we all share.
Quote from: Bear on January 23, 2024, 06:30:31 AM
Oh definitely my first exposure was from watching the cop tv show chips as a toddler and they had the mud wrestling scene on it. It woke something up in me at 5 or 6 years old that is still with me to this day lol. I was mesmerized and loved it at that age haha, even though I was nowhere near starting puberty yet
So, was that an episode of CHiPs, Sheriff Lobo or Sledge Hammer? ;D
Oh its in the clip its from Chips
Quote from: man-of-sea on January 26, 2024, 04:49:33 AM
The issue boils down to how little we really understand genetic coding. How vital information is coded molecularly into the DNA and then read out by the neurons in our brains. It's a very complicated but well know to the chemical receptors that trigger the brain "mind". Most of this is just chemical memory and can be easily pass down by chemical transfer by each new generation ie DNA for genetic information memory. That in the early child brain development is when must of the chemical memory is transferred to the brain neurons. This is why each species have similar genetic traits of functions. Im not sure if I am expressing this right in a few sentences. but it is my two cents of this wonderful subject that we all share.
What you're saying is that we may well have a pre-disposition to this in our DNA, like we do for things like heart disease or alcoholism or understanding physics, etc. but there has to be an external stimulus that triggers the characteristic and brings it to the surface. Very interesting!
I need to think about that for about a month.
My husband said it was because he hates himself because his father abused him or allowed him to be abused, his step-father had some super weird shit going on with massive dildos and his mom didn't care about any of it and neglected him, hence his hatred and abuse fantasies about women.
At least that's what he told me las year when I finally asked.
I believe it is that and for him, disassociate states to deal with trauma, because he has hundreds of different usernames on this and other sites, all talking to one another, and I don't believe it is just for the likes and increase in traffic to his paid sites.
Hopefully you all have healthier things going on than he does. His is a scary mind and world. He writes stories like you see here about all of the real women he knows and meets and have had relationships with. All of them. That is scary to me. But I clearly don't understand.
Quote from: NCP707 on January 27, 2024, 06:53:38 PM
My husband said it was because he hates himself because his father abused him or allowed him to be abused, his step-father had some super weird shit going on with massive dildos and his mom didn't care about any of it and neglected him, hence his hatred and abuse fantasies about women.
At least that's what he told me las year when I finally asked.
I believe it is that and for him, disassociate states to deal with trauma, because he has hundreds of different usernames on this and other sites, all talking to one another, and I don't believe it is just for the likes and increase in traffic to his paid sites.
Hopefully you all have healthier things going on than he does. His is a scary mind and world. He writes stories like you see here about all of the real women he knows and meets and have had relationships with. All of them. That is scary to me. But I clearly don't understand.
hmm abuse fantasies and hatred about women isnt what we like at all though. At least thats not the connection between abuse and mud wrestling or something, very bizarre. I dont think he likes the same thing..
Like I have said before, we have a pretty wide range and from what I have gathered some kind of abuse would be a tiny tiny percentage of us. In fact I have never heard anybody before with that kind of history. Sounds like your husband should use some of his money from his paid sites to get some help. Seriously. I have had years of counseling (mostly unrelated to this) and it has been very beneficial. Totally worth the money.
Quote from: nehawrestler on January 21, 2024, 06:51:44 PM
the foundation of many sexual interests and fetishes can often be traced back to formative experiences or exposures. these do not necessarily have to be inherently sexual but can evolve into a sexualized interest over time....there is also the role of power dynamics in sexual arousal and fetish development... the fascination of female competition stems from the intrinsic human interest in social hierarchies and the demonstration of physical or psychological prowess. apart from that the concept of taboo also plays a significant role. what is deemed forbidden or outside societal norms acquires an increased allure. the deviation from mainstream sexual interest adds a layer of excitement and uniqueness...
This is spot on. I believe experiences in our formative years absolutely have an effect on our sexual fantasies. I was about 10 or 11 and saw my friend's mom playfully wrestle with one of her friends. It was the first time I could remember being turned on. That was 50 years ago and this fetish has never been stronger for me.
I think born with it also. I can remember my first masturbation session was when two neighborhood girls starting wrestling in one of their yards. I was hooked and imagined everybody from then on. Two teachers, co-workers and wives and exe's.
Love everything about female fights. Staged fantasy fights are great, imagined scenarios, with women of all shapes and sizes in erotic matches, or in a real catfight or an evenly matched fist fight is just wild to.me!! Warching athletic women who train and prepare to particpate in a kickboxing, or mma, or ufc or grappling match is intense and exciting ! Following fighters online amd watching them train and build their physical amd mental prep for a fight is inspiring. Fantasising about my wife in fights with some of my female co workers is great and her acceptance of my fetish although she doesnt particpate in it is terrific. The only thing I detest is bullying and assaults on the weak.
Two women willing to go at each other in competition or to settle things in the streets is wildly appealing to me.
My catfight fetish origin
I have always been curious about how people get interested in catfighting and female combat as a fetish. In the spirit of that I thought I'd share my own origin story.
My Catfighting fetish is an integral part of who I am as a kinkster. It has been a lifelong thrill for me. My fetish is particular - I don't care for street fights or bar room brawls really. I like women's MMA and other combat sports but those are not really tied to my fetish either.
My preferences are catfights and catty wrestling wherein two women agree to meet and face each other to fight under a certain set of rules and test each other in strength, skill, endurance and pain threshold. Hey - It's a fight and it's likely to hurt! On the note of rules, I am a fan of whatever the women agree to as long as it's competitive and to be honest as rough as they agree to. So there's a broad range of what I like in terms of fighting tactics as long as it's not staged or scripted.
As to how this all started for me, I was 10 or 11 years old! Yup. That young! My older cousin knew where his older brothers hid their porn magazines stash. We were hanging out at the house and no one was around. He pulled these out and my very first exposure to porn was Cavalier mag and the very first images were of women in catfights - from
The very beginning catfighting and women fighting were linked to sexuality and I was hooked. The hair was huge as were the fake tits! But images of naked women pulling hair, slapping, and even some clawing and biting and punching amidst faked wrestling holds and moves sent an electric shock through me like lightning and I was hooked. There were other mags with boxing, ring wrestling, mud and oil wrestling but it was the catfight imagery that held my attention and that I got this electrifying response from. I was 11 and I was hooked!
Ever since I have sought out female fight content and in particular catfight content. In that same time frame, mud and oil wrestling was popular in movies and TV. I watched women's wrestling whenever I could. It was in that era that Sports Review Wrestling mag was publishing apartment wrestling pictorials and stories. The stories were terrible but Theoret's photographs of girls fighting in bikinis were very inspiring and very sexy to me. I picked up as many as I could and enjoyed them all. They evolved into battling girls mags that depicted nude wrestling and catfighting. It was wildly exciting at the time.
Throughout my life I have enjoyed my fetish and am grateful to the catfight producers and the women who agree to compete in catfighting. The internet really opened up access and to this day I love watching catfights, chatting w fans and fighters and building a bit of a community.
That continues to this day. And I hope to meet more fans and fighters in the years to come.
Thanks for sharing. I love origin stories and surprised how 90% of us started so young!
I don't know how true this is for everyone but some people are more receptive to physical actions and others are more effected by emotions. In my case I think I get more enjoyment from the emotional aspects of a female fight, to a certain extent, I think this might be why I prefer scripted matches, for me a scripted fight, even if there is no storyline etc is safer to enjoy. I can use my imagination to heighten the enjoyment, whilst at the same time knowing at the back of my mind that hopefully the ladies involved are not going to suffer serious injury. It also means that the memory of a matchup can be better than when I first witnessed it.
I guess that this topic really suits older fans who still marvel at how much girl fights turned them on when they were youngsters, barely at puberty, and still carries that same sexual power today as it did all those years ago. I am personally still amazed, in my mid-sixties, at how I become so sexually charged when I go through my personal collection of fighting-girls material, mainly photos, some art and some videos. I remember when I made my first purchase of photosets and magazines from Triumph Studios, the unquestioned leader in the genre back in the late seventies, early eighties, and the excitement it brought me.
I have always kept my girl-fight fetish hidden. It's not easy to have such an important component of your sexuality remain a complete secret. I guess I've always known that I wasn't alone as there would never have been a Triumph Studios, or California Supreme if there was no market for it. However, the question for me was how many guys are into it as a side-fetish, and how many, like me, clearly define watching girl fights as the absolute number one source of sexual gratification. I could never have known back in the sixties and seventies, that being instantly turned on by fighting gals as a kid while watching movies and TV shows would still have the same effect on me over half a century later. But it does. I have evolved in my preferences, but the same core turn-on is still there. For me, the victory-defeat aspect in female fights is an important component to the turn-on. I used to hate photosets or videos that did not have a winner, and my favorite shots in any girl fight series of photos are the victory poses. All these years later, I can still look at some of those old Triumph photos of Hanna Vick in a victory pose, proud winner with her arms in the air standing over her defeated opponent with her foot on the loser's chest and still feel that old blood rush, like I did as a teenager.
Totally agree, the Victory-Defeat aspect is veri exciting por me too, the most importante thing in a girl fight.
I love fight with a clear winner and a clear loser after the fight. No draws or stopped brawls.
Personally, I don't know if a sexual psychologist would be even willing to take me up. The attraction started well before I was interested in anything sexual. One day I came back from a visit to the countryside and ever since I had fantasized of various women fighting. Regrettably, it wasn't until I matured into adulthood that I respected boundaries.
History of abuse played a part for me, and while my father wasn't per se absent, he was also a self-serving self centered alcoholic, so my mother was my role model until my first steady girlfriend who fortunately was receptive to my kink. My catfights are often part revenge fantasies exploring what should have happened. I do somewhat blame my grandfather for forcing my mother to abandon her tomboyish persona because of expected gender roles, despite her being the closest in personality to him, wearing her heart on her sleeve, and not afraid of fighting for the underdog.
About evolution, I'd point out the nuance that many early writings are antagonistic to women for having a mind of their own and gasp daring to love who they love. After leaving the caves and setting up tribes, many cultures opted for a wise elder who came up with a system on whom women had to marry to keep land and/or riches. So to a point I understand women going after their base impulses and lust after well trained and well muscled men. Dare I say part of it is because of those men being physically able to service the athleticism of women and be willing to do more positions.
As my old man was self-serving and learned to manipulate others from his mother, he found the desires of my mother wanting to leave the family home where her mother wanted to keep her. Think more like Gaston, and a lot less like Prince Chamling. Granted, he didn't lie about being well read or being an excellent dancer (damn that's the only I envy of him) but he lied about his vices and by the time he came clean; I was already born. Part of the fights I write is my mother against women who fell for my father's charms and blamed her instead.
I heavily agree with sinclairfan, I aim for cathartic moments where my heroines discover shit. Why haven't I had done this sooner? I like that Tina Fey was candidly honest in Mean Girls on how the analogy with a queen bee works since once an invading queen takes over the hive, the other women refocus their whisper network, supposed to protect all women in the group/clique is being retooled to only protect the queen..
This is all fine and well, and I hope you all are getting off safe without actually hurting other people, but here's the deal. You probably are hurting other people whether you acknowledge it or not. There is a reason you keep this world hidden. There is a reason it is unacceptable in society and that is because the views you have about women and what you make them do in your fantasy minds eye Would never be acceptable to them if they knew. That is why you hide it Think about that for a moment when you think that you are profess your love for someone, but you have an entire world hidden that you have never told them about that. Taste everything you do with women that makes it impossible for you to maintain or even achieve an erection in a ""normal sexual situation."
Furthermore, writing about violence, actual violence against women, as is down on this site is a template and a blueprint for people who lack the imagination themselves. No, I am not saying you cause people to be violent. What I am saying is that you by celebrating this violence normalize it and make it OK in the mind of others. I also believe that some of you are dangerous to women and children based on your writings. The fact that some of you cannot seem to separate children out of your fantasies, even though this site, explicitly prohibits, it tells me that there is a compulsion that is notable or not being controlled.
My husband told me he writes these stories so that he doesn't harm women in real life. That is scary as fuck to me and I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry about any of your tragic childhood and abuse upbringings. If this is how you are choosing to channel your trauma and rage against women.
I recognize this may not be most of you, but it is certainly many of you and certainly my husband Who is present on this thread.
He won't acknowledge that he has a problem, but I am telling the world he has a fucking problem and if you were on this site thinking you were innocent and not harming people. Well, you are just wrong.
It is unbelievably disturbing to find files with your name and photos going back 30 years with images of the horrible things that your husband has has fantasized about happening to you and other women .
I did not have this. I did not ask for your world to be an existence, and I certainly did not ask to participate in it. But here we are. I also fully expect to be banned from this site soon, but that's OK because the security really sucks and it will continue to be monitored and reported as appropriate.
And an open note to my husband: If you believe that you are not doing anything wrong here, you should just admit it and own up to your kink. If you know that you have done something wrong, you need to make it right and if you can't make it right, you need professional help.
It is not OK to write and fantasize about trafficking real women and their children. Period. Full stop.
Quote from: BettyBoop on July 14, 2024, 02:17:53 PM
This is all fine and well, and I hope you all are getting off safe without actually hurting other people, but here's the deal. You probably are hurting other people whether you acknowledge it or not. There is a reason you keep this world hidden. There is a reason it is unacceptable in society and that is because the views you have about women and what you make them do in your fantasy minds eye Would never be acceptable to them if they knew. That is why you hide it Think about that for a moment when you think that you are profess your love for someone, but you have an entire world hidden that you have never told them about that. Taste everything you do with women that makes it impossible for you to maintain or even achieve an erection in a ""normal sexual situation."
Furthermore, writing about violence, actual violence against women, as is down on this site is a template and a blueprint for people who lack the imagination themselves. No, I am not saying you cause people to be violent. What I am saying is that you by celebrating this violence normalize it and make it OK in the mind of others. I also believe that some of you are dangerous to women and children based on your writings. The fact that some of you cannot seem to separate children out of your fantasies, even though this site, explicitly prohibits, it tells me that there is a compulsion that is notable or not being controlled.
My husband told me he writes these stories so that he doesn't harm women in real life. That is scary as fuck to me and I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry about any of your tragic childhood and abuse upbringings. If this is how you are choosing to channel your trauma and rage against women.
I recognize this may not be most of you, but it is certainly many of you and certainly my husband Who is present on this thread.
He won't acknowledge that he has a problem, but I am telling the world he has a fucking problem and if you were on this site thinking you were innocent and not harming people. Well, you are just wrong.
It is unbelievably disturbing to find files with your name and photos going back 30 years with images of the horrible things that your husband has has fantasized about happening to you and other women .
I did not have this. I did not ask for your world to be an existence, and I certainly did not ask to participate in it. But here we are. I also fully expect to be banned from this site soon, but that's OK because the security really sucks and it will continue to be monitored and reported as appropriate.
And an open note to my husband: If you believe that you are not doing anything wrong here, you should just admit it and own up to your kink. If you know that you have done something wrong, you need to make it right and if you can't make it right, you need professional help.
It is not OK to write and fantasize about trafficking real women and their children. Period. Full stop.
uh generalizing everyone with some sort of trauma is just wrong.
Quote from: clark85 on July 14, 2024, 04:32:02 PM
Quote from: BettyBoop on July 14, 2024, 02:17:53 PM
This is all fine and well, and I hope you all are getting off safe without actually hurting other people, but here's the deal. You probably are hurting other people whether you acknowledge it or not. There is a reason you keep this world hidden. There is a reason it is unacceptable in society and that is because the views you have about women and what you make them do in your fantasy minds eye Would never be acceptable to them if they knew. That is why you hide it Think about that for a moment when you think that you are profess your love for someone, but you have an entire world hidden that you have never told them about that. Taste everything you do with women that makes it impossible for you to maintain or even achieve an erection in a ""normal sexual situation."
Furthermore, writing about violence, actual violence against women, as is down on this site is a template and a blueprint for people who lack the imagination themselves. No, I am not saying you cause people to be violent. What I am saying is that you by celebrating this violence normalize it and make it OK in the mind of others. I also believe that some of you are dangerous to women and children based on your writings. The fact that some of you cannot seem to separate children out of your fantasies, even though this site, explicitly prohibits, it tells me that there is a compulsion that is notable or not being controlled.
My husband told me he writes these stories so that he doesn't harm women in real life. That is scary as fuck to me and I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry about any of your tragic childhood and abuse upbringings. If this is how you are choosing to channel your trauma and rage against women.
I recognize this may not be most of you, but it is certainly many of you and certainly my husband Who is present on this thread.
He won't acknowledge that he has a problem, but I am telling the world he has a fucking problem and if you were on this site thinking you were innocent and not harming people. Well, you are just wrong.
It is unbelievably disturbing to find files with your name and photos going back 30 years with images of the horrible things that your husband has has fantasized about happening to you and other women .
I did not have this. I did not ask for your world to be an existence, and I certainly did not ask to participate in it. But here we are. I also fully expect to be banned from this site soon, but that's OK because the security really sucks and it will continue to be monitored and reported as appropriate.
And an open note to my husband: If you believe that you are not doing anything wrong here, you should just admit it and own up to your kink. If you know that you have done something wrong, you need to make it right and if you can't make it right, you need professional help.
It is not OK to write and fantasize about trafficking real women and their children. Period. Full stop.
uh generalizing everyone with some sort of trauma is just wrong.
I agree. I am referring to one person here. Glad it doesn't apply to you. But this site contributes to the global collection of misogyny, like Andrew Tate. My husband is sick. I hope you are not.
Ok I dont get the past abuse argument, that is just sick, a female fight fetish should not be about taking revenge on anyone. And to the wife whos husband has posted pics of her without permission, your husband has serious problems, if he can not respect your wishes, you might want to consider your entire relationship. But please do not tar everyone with the same brush.
As somebody who has participated in a fair amount of "professional help" over this subject, just thought I'd step back in again on this subject in reply to BettyBoop. Clearly you and your husband are in a moment of crises over this subject and I would suggest you seek counseling for both of you. I have always found being able to talk about this to be very helpful. But I have to warn you that you may be disappointed with the professionals judgements on this subject. In general this kink trends toward the shallow end of the perversion pool. Most psychological professionals have seen much worse than us and tend to not be alarmed by this kink. Most won't even label it a fetish for most cases because it is considered so mainstream. In my case, I saw a counselor who told me to embrace it and normalize it and it will go away (pretty sure he is wrong about that, but it was his advice), saw a sexual specialist who determined that I was in the normal range of sexual interest and was more interested in my wife's hidden traumas (and I have to say some of the people in her waiting room really scared the shit out of me), and counselor 3, a christian counselor, which is really hard to find put me in group counseling primarily so I could see I really wasn't the monster I thought I was (again a couple of those guys scared me too). It does sound to me like your husband has crossed some lines. Sharing your pictures. Involving children or worse your children. Fantasizing about "horrible things" happening to you. Obviously we are all on a spectrum and I have no idea where he really is on that spectrum, what trauma's he is trying to resolve, or even who he is. I can see where that would be very upsetting to you discovering a hidden aspect of your husband after all this time. That being said there is a dramatic difference between fantasizing and doing. We all have some darkness in our thoughts that we hide or control somehow. You get mad at the driver that cut you off and momentarily entertain the fantasy of driving them off the road, That doesn't make you crazy. Actually driving them off the road would make you crazy. Whatever coping mechanisms that allow you to not do that, even if they seem a little crazy in themselves probably are worthwhile to avoid the big crazy. Perhaps your husband is right and this in some small way helps him cope? The evidence that you have been with him for 30 years and he hasn't spent time in jail or a loony bin would suggest that it does. That is not to say there isn't a better coping mechanism. I also don't think confessing his kink to the world will help you or him. My wife had me do that as well with similar results to the shrinks. Nobody seemed that freaked out by it, nobody cut me out of their life, or brought it up ever again. Just made me miserable with no benefit that I could see beyond my wife's need to humiliate me. But talk to the counselors. Both of you.
Also I hope they don't kick you out of the room. I don't think your painting us all with a broad brush violates any of the rules here. And I don't think it hurts any of us to hear what a "normal" person thinks about us, or calling us misogynists, implying that we are sick, or even comparing us to Andrew Tate (whoever that is). This is the Internet... kind of the definition of "words can never hurt me." You are clearly hurt and understandably lashing out. Of course that is up to the people who own the room. Wish you the best of luck.
Quote from: BettyBoop on July 14, 2024, 02:17:53 PM
This is all fine and well, and I hope you all are getting off safe without actually hurting other people, but here's the deal. You probably are hurting other people whether you acknowledge it or not. There is a reason you keep this world hidden. There is a reason it is unacceptable in society and that is because the views you have about women and what you make them do in your fantasy minds eye Would never be acceptable to them if they knew. That is why you hide it Think about that for a moment when you think that you are profess your love for someone, but you have an entire world hidden that you have never told them about that. Taste everything you do with women that makes it impossible for you to maintain or even achieve an erection in a ""normal sexual situation."
Furthermore, writing about violence, actual violence against women, as is down on this site is a template and a blueprint for people who lack the imagination themselves. No, I am not saying you cause people to be violent. What I am saying is that you by celebrating this violence normalize it and make it OK in the mind of others. I also believe that some of you are dangerous to women and children based on your writings. The fact that some of you cannot seem to separate children out of your fantasies, even though this site, explicitly prohibits, it tells me that there is a compulsion that is notable or not being controlled.
My husband told me he writes these stories so that he doesn't harm women in real life. That is scary as fuck to me and I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry about any of your tragic childhood and abuse upbringings. If this is how you are choosing to channel your trauma and rage against women.
I recognize this may not be most of you, but it is certainly many of you and certainly my husband Who is present on this thread.
He won't acknowledge that he has a problem, but I am telling the world he has a fucking problem and if you were on this site thinking you were innocent and not harming people. Well, you are just wrong.
It is unbelievably disturbing to find files with your name and photos going back 30 years with images of the horrible things that your husband has has fantasized about happening to you and other women .
I did not have this. I did not ask for your world to be an existence, and I certainly did not ask to participate in it. But here we are. I also fully expect to be banned from this site soon, but that's OK because the security really sucks and it will continue to be monitored and reported as appropriate.
And an open note to my husband: If you believe that you are not doing anything wrong here, you should just admit it and own up to your kink. If you know that you have done something wrong, you need to make it right and if you can't make it right, you need professional help.
It is not OK to write and fantasize about trafficking real women and their children. Period. Full stop.
Please specify the content on this site that glorifies violence against children or trafficking children.
As for the rest, I'll just say this. The first time I remember becoming aroused by this material was when I saw a mud wrestling match on a crappy TV series. I've checked the air date for the episode, and I was 5 at the time. And I recall distinctly anticipating the buildup to the match and hoping it would happen, which suggests to me that this is something that's been 'down in me' from the start. So, no, I don't think that my acting on this fetish, which has been the way I experience sexual desire my whole life, in a way that doesn't harm anyone in the real world makes me "like Andrew Tate" or a child trafficker. People who traffic children, sexually harass women, rape, etc. are the people who are responsible for those things. I'm not "probably hurting other people" just by being alive.
Edit: I also remember watching the Wonder Woman TV series and hoping there would be a fight scene, and that went off the air before I turned 4.
Quote from: BettyBoop on July 14, 2024, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: clark85 on July 14, 2024, 04:32:02 PM
Quote from: BettyBoop on July 14, 2024, 02:17:53 PM
This is all fine and well, and I hope you all are getting off safe without actually hurting other people, but here's the deal. You probably are hurting other people whether you acknowledge it or not. There is a reason you keep this world hidden. There is a reason it is unacceptable in society and that is because the views you have about women and what you make them do in your fantasy minds eye Would never be acceptable to them if they knew. That is why you hide it Think about that for a moment when you think that you are profess your love for someone, but you have an entire world hidden that you have never told them about that. Taste everything you do with women that makes it impossible for you to maintain or even achieve an erection in a ""normal sexual situation."
Furthermore, writing about violence, actual violence against women, as is down on this site is a template and a blueprint for people who lack the imagination themselves. No, I am not saying you cause people to be violent. What I am saying is that you by celebrating this violence normalize it and make it OK in the mind of others. I also believe that some of you are dangerous to women and children based on your writings. The fact that some of you cannot seem to separate children out of your fantasies, even though this site, explicitly prohibits, it tells me that there is a compulsion that is notable or not being controlled.
My husband told me he writes these stories so that he doesn't harm women in real life. That is scary as fuck to me and I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry about any of your tragic childhood and abuse upbringings. If this is how you are choosing to channel your trauma and rage against women.
I recognize this may not be most of you, but it is certainly many of you and certainly my husband Who is present on this thread.
He won't acknowledge that he has a problem, but I am telling the world he has a fucking problem and if you were on this site thinking you were innocent and not harming people. Well, you are just wrong.
It is unbelievably disturbing to find files with your name and photos going back 30 years with images of the horrible things that your husband has has fantasized about happening to you and other women .
I did not have this. I did not ask for your world to be an existence, and I certainly did not ask to participate in it. But here we are. I also fully expect to be banned from this site soon, but that's OK because the security really sucks and it will continue to be monitored and reported as appropriate.
And an open note to my husband: If you believe that you are not doing anything wrong here, you should just admit it and own up to your kink. If you know that you have done something wrong, you need to make it right and if you can't make it right, you need professional help.
It is not OK to write and fantasize about trafficking real women and their children. Period. Full stop.
uh generalizing everyone with some sort of trauma is just wrong.
I agree. I am referring to one person here. Glad it doesn't apply to you. But this site contributes to the global collection of misogyny, like Andrew Tate. My husband is sick. I hope you are not.
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Then maybe you just refer to that one person. As the above post itself was sickening in itself PS if your husband is so sick divorce him I could not stand to be around as someone as sick in the head as they are and it seems to be spreading
I tried to divorce him. He fought it. I am homeless and live on the street and sometimes get to stay inside. I am offered housing for sex. I decline and am back in my tent and car in this weather. Trying not to die. Literally. Actually.
See here's the thing. He wrote about KILLING ME and having me mutilated. That's not within the normal realm of kinks and things and the shrinks I've spoken to can't even stomach it long enough to read it. So no. Counseling won't help and I want him to suffer now.
He and this site have taught me a lot about suffering and he can just shove that dildo right up his own ass.
I am tired of being tormented and the only way to may it stop is to make him stop. So I will.
For those of you who think it's ok to fantasize about killing your wife and exes and your family, well, that's your problem. And I hope you can keep these urges under wraps.
But he is about trafficking children and unless you all also support that, we're talking about different kinks and vices.
I don't give a dildo fuck about your consensual shit. Beat each other up. Cool.
But as someone who was sought out, love bombed, lied to with massive fraud (think George santos) and then found out about this shit a decade into a sexless, impotent marriage, I see it all differently.
Again, my point is to not do that to someone else. Leave incident people out of your writing and fantasy worlds of death and violence.
Oh, and looking back I see he has already chimed in here on this thread.
Hey, NCP. I'm talking about you, you sick fuck. Quit dragging out this divorce so you can go back and play dilldo torture and "manage your teams" all night drinking and not remembering your multiple identities online. Which is also either sick or pathetic.
Irish. Karsa Orlong. WS2003 justlooking, Karl Butters. All of you. I mean you.
Might be time for this thread to end. it seems to have veered in a scary direction.
Ha. Yes, Daz, let's.
I found the answers I needed here. Thank you all for your input. I will deal with my psychopath myself. I'm sorry to have involved anyone here unnecessarily, but after reading and following for over a year now, I see the difference between kink and sickness. Sad, but, again, thank you.
I will be leaving this site, so carry on.
It is very plain and very simple. With out a good loving women behind there man we would have failed misably.
Quote from: BettyBoop on July 18, 2024, 01:42:31 AM
Ha. Yes, Daz, let's.
I found the answers I needed here. Thank you all for your input. I will deal with my psychopath myself. I'm sorry to have involved anyone here unnecessarily, but after reading and following for over a year now, I see the difference between kink and sickness. Sad, but, again, thank you.
I will be leaving this site, so carry on.
We certainly wish you all the best, Betty wherever this thread goes. Again, what you are describing is far in excess of 99% of the men I have spoken with here and their experiences. Even if you are heading toward divorce, I would suggest counseling for both of you even after the divorce is complete. Mental health is just worth it. Even now they have the counseling over the internet. Again. we wish you the best of luck.
For the longest time, I struggled with my desire at watching two women fighting each other, I honestly thought there was something wrong with me seeing two women scratch and claw at each other, over the years I've come to accept as something that turns me on, the sight of 2 attractive women struggling against each other, the looks of pleasure and pain on their faces as they grab breasts is intoxicating to me. I think California Wildcats were the only company to truly capture that kind of eroticism and there's been no other company since that's come close, except maybe JM Rolen.
Quote from: DM on July 28, 2024, 07:33:54 AM
For the longest time, I struggled with my desire at watching two women fighting each other, I honestly thought there was something wrong with me seeing two women scratch and claw at each other, over the years I've come to accept as something that turns me on, the sight of 2 attractive women struggling against each other, the looks of pleasure and pain on their faces as they grab breasts is intoxicating to me. I think California Wildcats were the only company to truly capture that kind of eroticism and there's been no other company since that's come close, except maybe JM Rolen.
I dont see why you were struggling with it? Do you watch sports at all, mma? Competitive sports was something I always loved so for me seeing that crossover with women that just magnifies that. Just not to the point of them competitors getting too hurt of course. So if you are attracted to women and then you see them doing something similar then of course it would be a turn on. I used to watch wrestling as a kid like WWF all the time and the action was great, but then when I saw the chips episode with female mud wrestling that just made it all the more natural to be extremely attracted to it, even before puberty. Two attractive women just wrestling hard in mud against each other in a bar was just amazing and I loved it.
That Chips mud wrestling scene is an all timer. It would be great to know how many fetishists were 'born' after seeing that! It was an oil wrestling scene on TV that got me going
Quote from: DM on July 28, 2024, 07:33:54 AM
For the longest time, I struggled with my desire at watching two women fighting each other, I honestly thought there was something wrong with me seeing two women scratch and claw at each other, over the years I've come to accept as something that turns me on, the sight of 2 attractive women struggling against each other, the looks of pleasure and pain on their faces as they grab breasts is intoxicating to me. I think California Wildcats were the only company to truly capture that kind of eroticism and there's been no other company since that's come close, except maybe JM Rolen.
I bet we've all been there. It actually turns me on a little more how bizarre this fetish is. Even today I often think, "why am I doing this to myself while watching THIS!". ????
Quote from: Hairpullfan on August 04, 2024, 03:03:03 PM
Quote from: DM on July 28, 2024, 07:33:54 AM
For the longest time, I struggled with my desire at watching two women fighting each other, I honestly thought there was something wrong with me seeing two women scratch and claw at each other, over the years I've come to accept as something that turns me on, the sight of 2 attractive women struggling against each other, the looks of pleasure and pain on their faces as they grab breasts is intoxicating to me. I think California Wildcats were the only company to truly capture that kind of eroticism and there's been no other company since that's come close, except maybe JM Rolen.
I bet we've all been there. It actually turns me on a little more how bizarre this fetish is. Even today I often think, "why am I doing this to myself while watching THIS!". ????
That is so strange I feel nothing like that. There is so much more bizarre shit out there
Quote from: clark85 on August 05, 2024, 04:43:21 AM
Quote from: Hairpullfan on August 04, 2024, 03:03:03 PM
Quote from: DM on July 28, 2024, 07:33:54 AM
For the longest time, I struggled with my desire at watching two women fighting each other, I honestly thought there was something wrong with me seeing two women scratch and claw at each other, over the years I've come to accept as something that turns me on, the sight of 2 attractive women struggling against each other, the looks of pleasure and pain on their faces as they grab breasts is intoxicating to me. I think California Wildcats were the only company to truly capture that kind of eroticism and there's been no other company since that's come close, except maybe JM Rolen.
I bet we've all been there. It actually turns me on a little more how bizarre this fetish is. Even today I often think, "why am I doing this to myself while watching THIS!". ????
That is so strange I feel nothing like that. There is so much more bizarre shit out there
I've spoken to a few people outside this fetish about it, and none of them think it's weird. Enjoying watching woman fight is actually very common, we just kind of "specialise" in it lol. And it makes sense when you think about it, watching 2 ladies (often nude or in sexual attire) fight for dominance in a sweaty wrestle, I don't know if there's many people who wouldn't find it hot
After game catfights were just part of being "cheer team queen",
captain, of her cheer squad
Aside from the "why" question, to which I found answers that satisfied me (thanks to Barb and her website) there's a practical part of this fetish as well. I assume, that like a lot of men my only gripe about our (my wife and my) sex life was the frequency. Just not enough times during the week to keep the Bear happy. That's as much a compliment to my wife as it is a confession of my sex drive. I decided that "straying" was just an all-around bad idea for lots of reasons, so I made the conscious decision that I would make the women in my fvf videos the "other woman" in my marriage. That way nobody gets used, feelings hurt, etc. So, to all of those women, I'd lke to say "thank you."
Granted, pretend sex with a screen image doesn't come close to the real deal, but it's kept me out of trouble.