The G.O.A.T?

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Is Sarah Brook the catfight G.O.A.T (Greatest of all time)?
In fact I've only seen her loose one real catfight.

I've always been a girl wrestling fan over cat fighting so I haven't followed the cat fighting section of our hobby like you guys. The exception was  ECNWC stuff which I loved with my favorite CD they put out was titled 'Three Shorter Fights' which had what I think was Jenn and Vira's cameo appearance in the catfight business ( they fought each other ).  There was another on there that had a blonde screaming her submission to a Hispanic girl in only about a minute into the fight from a nasty pussy grab which really got my attention ... never saw such a brutal, primal attack like back then.

Recently I found out about Suite Fights from this forum and you guys .  Immediately fell for Sarah but seeing limited amounts of her stuff I can't say - and doubt - she's the 'best ever' ... but loved everything I saw of her so far.  So far I never saw her lose and some of her wins I saw were 'gifts' or questionable as they ended in weird ways with the win going to her. I'm saying this and she's my favorite CFer right now. You said she lost - who was that against and who was the producer ?   

One girl who I thought was only a fantasy / scripted fighter before seeing her really fight is Pamela from Italian Female Wrestling.  I then read where see is rated as one of the best in the world at it and after seeing a couple of her serious fights, she's got to be up there in rank ... absolutely frightening when she's in full blown fight / hair pulling mode. Holy Shit !!    I guess it's why she and her friend Bianca are no longer invited back to Fighting Dolls. 

I immediately wanted to buy some of her IFW catfights ( vs Lara especially ) after seeing her beat Tiger without from Female Combat Stars but IFW's $50.00 a fight was a little more than I wanted to spend on a fight. I was also shocked that that girl Lara was tough enough to fight her ... she was another I thought was just fantasy / scripted until seeing some previews on IFW.

What are your opinions on Pamela ?  You guys are all way better versed than me with these CF girls, have any of you seen her lose a REAL fight ?  I'm surprised she wasn't listed in your  'best'  list of girls. Do I have her over rated ?

[Bunpbner-man-22]

I think ya gotta break this out by category, I said that before:

All time GOAT: Lisa Marie.  She did it all with exception of modern day unscripted she faded out of the scene just when ECNWC started which inspired the modern producers of today

Most talented: Ariel X or Nadege.  Nadege just because she was so fundamentally sound and sexy and Ariel X because she literally I don't think if you took her in her prime at Kink would be beaten by many women like at all.  She just was too athletic and aggressive. 

Best scripted: Francesca Le.  Easily probably the biggest name in DT with the most staying power.  She was in so many companies but she easily was the most appealing scripted

Current GOAT: Sarah Brooke.  Sexy as heck, strong, and determined.  She never seems to lose even tho I think there's 1 or 2 fights.  But she was still steamrolling everyone even into last year she dominated Reagan every time and I thought Reagan was great. Although for some reason Charlie Mancini gave her a hard time if she had a higher pain threshold she would've won and dominated her but she was always a curvy glass canon adult star with a small penchant for wrestling.

There's a ton more like Jana N, Luzia, Belinda Belle, Treena Colins, Tina Antman, Robin, and I'd say Keri Spectrum to round them out.

But for me it's always gonna be Lisa Marie number 1 she was just so tall and strong and she would whoop people with her headlocks and scissors.

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Ariel X because she literally I don't think if you took her in her prime at Kink would be beaten by many women like at all.  She just was too athletic and aggressive.

Ariel X is up there but I'm pretty sure VeVe beat her wrestling without too much trouble.

[bofa123]

Make her fight in socal and you'll see she will have 0 wins.

All she can do is grapple, as soon as she gets hit hard its RIP.

[Dario]

Belinda Belle, by far.

[Flamingo]

Belinda Belle, by far.

Huge star of late 80s abd early 90s.
Reminded me of kelly bundy. Havent seen a recent picture of her

[Dario]

Yes, for twenty years she was the undisputed queen of semi-competitive wrestling, catfighting, and scripted.
Her successors, Hollywood and Francesca, have been great, but they haven't reached her level as real fighters or stars

[Dario]

Yes, I understand your opinion. Indeed, Belinda lost twice and won twice against Pam Manning, once in wrestling, twice in boxing and once in catfight.
To me, GOAT is the biggest star in the business in history. And she is.
Maybe not the strongest or best fighter, but the biggest star.
Over the years, many well-known professional girls from different companies have told me the same thing.
Belinda is the top legend.

[Dario]

I have seen many mention Ariel X as one of the greats.
I really like her, but her top rival in Ultimate Surrender, Vendetta, made her her puppy almost every time they fought, alone or in pairs.
Vendetta was her Nemesis.
And in my opinion,  sexier too.

[therightsideleft]

Well, there was also Dakota, she also participated from staged to normal catfight. She injured her back and was unable to continue fighting.

I totally agree. Dakota fought in all genres from fantasy to real. I always wondered what happened to her. Never found anything about her personal history either.

[suhmann]

Well, there was also Dakota, she also participated from staged to normal catfight. She injured her back and was unable to continue fighting.

I totally agree. Dakota fought in all genres from fantasy to real. I always wondered what happened to her. Never found anything about her personal history either.

I don't know much, and of course I should have asked her personally before, now her mail doesn't work.I'm talking to a producer who worked with her, that's what he said :::::I agree with your feelings about Dakota. She is a fearless, talented and sweet woman. Of all the women I've worked with over the years, she was the least difficult. Unfortunately, a few years ago she had an accident at work, and now she lives with a bad back. The same thing happened with Faye, and fighting and/or sexual fights would be painful. Faye fell on the concrete shortly before CF008, and in my opinion that's why she lost to Jocelyn that day. She was in a lot of pain.

[jaybee]

There's a lot of great names mentioned. Belinda Belle, and Dakota are LEGENDS but all of them rose to fame over a long period of time, Sarah got to legendary status in under 10yrs and from an insane grind and work ethic. She put more work in into her first year than most have in 5 and has just started  slowing down (I think). Plus the only time I've seen her in real trouble was against Lexi and even then she kept coming and probably would have beat her. She's the catfight equivalent of Rocky Balboa lol.

[Flamingo]

There's a lot of great names mentioned. Belinda Belle, and Dakota are LEGENDS but all of them rose to fame over a long period of time, Sarah got to legendary status in under 10yrs and from an insane grind and work ethic. She put more work in into her first year than most have in 5 and has just started  slowing down (I think). Plus the only time I've seen her in real trouble was against Lexi and even then she kept coming and probably would have beat her. She's the catfight equivalent of Rocky Balboa lol.

Charlie mancini also got her in trouble. Sarah brooke vs santana or nikki darling really needs to happen 

[b3b392]

Of the current crop of girls in the scene, Sarah Brooke is undeniably the best. Against more wrestling based opposition like Lora Cross - she wins. Against more catfight based opposition like Mila Rose - she wins. Against girls leagues below her who don't really have any right fighting her like Angel or Evonn - she obviously wins but also keeps the fights relatively engaging.

She's properly dedicated herself to improving her skills and stuck at it like no one else seems willing to, which honestly is worrying for the future. Alexa Brooke had potential, got stung by Vika and has disappeared. Vika was looking promising, but came unstuck against Paris Love - although she has since started taking BJJ lessons, so might one day reach Sarah's levels, though I doubt she'll ever have Sarah's fight anyone, anywhere attitude and it doesn't sound like she'll return to suitefights which is disappointing. Paris Love clearly has the wrestling skills, but her real catfights are few and far between and she was dominated by Sexywife. Sexywife was undeniably tough and might conceivably have challenged Sarah but she's disappeared like Alexa Brooke. Nikki Darling only ever pops her head up once every couple of years, and definitely has the fighting spirit, but I can't see her improving much fighting as rarely as she does.

Perhaps, Bella Lux or Santana could pose a threat to Sarah currently and both could possibly improve going forward. Would love to Sarah tangle with either.

Long story short though, discussions about the GOAT of the catfighting world feel like they are unfortunately going to be based on girls from the past like Nadege, Lisa Marie, Ariel X, et al because the current crop just don't seem to have the drive that Sarah Brooke did, the number of producers seems to be diminshing and a lot of the girls can't seem to get over their first loss. Hope I'm proven wrong in the long run but genuinely worried I won't be

[Flamingo]

Amber/Santana from Mexican catfights could become a huge star. She seems to be more active while Sarah Brooke seems to be slowing down and aging in dog years