Just read a sad Twitter post from davina winter that some fans comments and messages are making her want to quit Catfighting :(
Paris Love then posted that she has taken a break from Catfighting for the same reason :(
I plead with the fans out there to stop pissing off the few fighters we have filming in the world today!!!
Wait, surely you're not saying that the real human beings who put their bodies on the line for the fantasies of other people might be irritated by the constant fucking whining demands for more violence and more nastiness?
Who fucking knew?
This fetish is full of people with a near total lack of empathy. Colour me unsurprised.
I'm a huge fan of Davina going back to her first fight against Fyona and even follow her on onlyfans, but she can be too sensitive at times. From what I saw, it sounds like she got upset by Alexa Brooke fans telling her she'll get beat. Competitive catfighting is like pro sports, you'll have fans that love you and haters that want to see you lose. Unless some idiots dm'd her with personal attacks, I don't see the issue with fans trying to stir things up before a big fight. Hopefully she's not having second thoughts about the match. I've seen Alexa fight bigger opponents(like Michelle at SF), so she's definitely not backing down.
I also think it's best to avoid twitter trolls. There are plenty of assholes out there who's sole purpose of being on social media is to harass/bully someone until they get a response from them. Don't ever acknowledge them... just block and ignore.
Quote from: Mikebt on May 30, 2021, 09:41:46 PM
I'm a huge fan of Davina going back to her first fight against Fyona and even follow her on onlyfans, but she can be too sensitive at times. From what I saw, it sounds like she got upset by Alexa Brooke fans telling her she'll get beat. Competitive catfighting is like pro sports, you'll have fans that love you and haters that want to see you lose. Unless some idiots dm'd her with personal attacks, I don't see the issue with fans trying to stir things up before a big fight. Hopefully she's not having second thoughts about the match. I've seen Alexa fight bigger opponents(like Michelle at SF), so she's definitely not backing down.
I also think it's best to avoid twitter trolls. There are plenty of assholes out there who's sole purpose of being on social media is to harass/bully someone until they get a response from them. Don't ever acknowledge them... just block and ignore.
With all due respect, a huge shift in tone happened 10 years ago on the coattails of the big economic crisis that created 2 forces, a left leaning one fed up with capitalism and a right leaning one that got co-opted by cryptofascist entities. They amplified the voices which became known as 8chan, and they mutually started to convince each other that them being slighted in life isn't because of antisocial personality prone to nigh psychotic outbursts (the neckbeards, incels, nice guys) but due to "women, being too spoiled and not knowing their place". What has begun as "being about journalistic ethics" exploded into voting armies and to encourage each other that persistently DMing any woman is just a woman who eventually will give in.
It is still a huge problem and doesn't seem to go away. A guy can and should do 2 things: one, the professional fighters don't know we exist even if we sponsor a match as safe for a few exceptions they don't meet (for aforementioned obvious reasons) and two, call out any man doing this, since they are convinced what they are doing is just being an engaged fan, and not actual outright harassment. A woman only needs to be self-confident to post anything about herself on social media of any type to draw in the creeps, with some feeling age is just a number. They can ignore them in the beginning, until you think about how some of those creeps don't only feel entitled to talk to women, but also to find out where they live and/or send them unsolicited gifts. That's why some people and this is why pleas of women are to be taken seriously.
Quote from: catfightlover40 on May 30, 2021, 10:16:49 PM
With all due respect, a huge shift in tone happened 10 years ago
Yeah...anonymous posting on social media. Any nimrod will say anything his depraved mind can come up with if knows he will get away with it.
I can guarantee you that many of the January 6 protestors have been so twisted around by social media that they thought they were storming the Capitol anonymously.
Rich
I firmly believe that a huge number of people online have lost any notion that other people online are real people with actual feelings. They've engaged with computers as a tool to satisfy each and every desire...and that's all it is to them now--a serotonin/dopamine device. And it's hard to stomach
Quote from: rin753 on May 31, 2021, 03:17:42 AM
Quote from: catfightlover40 on May 30, 2021, 10:16:49 PM
With all due respect, a huge shift in tone happened 10 years ago
Yeah...anonymous posting on social media. Any nimrod will say anything his depraved mind can come up with if knows he will get away with it.
I can guarantee you that many of the January 6 protestors have been so twisted around by social media that they thought they were storming the Capitol anonymously.
Rich
You may recall that one guy arrested last month, who got busted over proudly using his recorded trespassing as a snapshot/profile picture on a dating service app. Am merely fighting the notion that such extremism is individual and sporadic. The sad reality is, while most radicalize themselves over perceived or real economic hardships, this new shift provide a platform through shared misogyny. A few years ago some neckbeards made a loud uproar about a ban in Japan regarding a "video game" if you can call it that, which served the sole purpose of sexually assaulting female characters on a commuter train, something they felt entitled to. Would not be a problem if some with a flexible spine had not discovered that catering to these bozos is easy money as they're willing to pay anything to the point of personal debt just so they can avoid any content they don't like.
There are virtually no stones left unturned, some aren't even interested in catfights, they just do this because the fighters are attractive, and even more important, due to the nature of the business, self-employed aka self-reliant. That's something they loath. While they themselves oppose societal hierarchy and civil rules, they have "strong opinions" on where a woman's place is, and that's being a kept woman. Once critical thinking is out the door, it's not hard to come to the "conclusion" that a one-time donation of 100 to 500 bucks to a custom match equals in their minds to a champagne dinner at a fancy restaurant, and if the woman who until then didn't even know they existed naturally draws a line, the "guys" engage in a concerted effort to harass her until "she sees the light".
Not sure how this became about political as asshole fans come from left, right and center. If you want to chat about this please look up my post "Political Catfight " MTG vs AOC is a big topic.
Fans need to sit back a wait for great matches to be filmed and not piss off the fighters booked Vs their fav Catfighter. The Catfighters should be the only ones doing the Trashtalking!!!
Quote from: LQQKING4CATFIGHTER on May 31, 2021, 07:52:00 PM
Not sure how this became about political as asshole fans come from left, right and center. If you want to chat about this please look up my post "Political Catfight " MTG vs AOC is a big topic.
Fans need to sit back a wait for great matches to be filmed and not piss off the fighters booked Vs their fav Catfighter. The Catfighters should be the only ones doing the Trashtalking!!!
Well, if you don't account for disparity in relations of power then yes, it'd be equal, but it isn't, and will, not be for the foreseeable future. You could expect people who call empathetic people SJWs to stand back and stand down, but that would just mean not knowing anything about them. This is why one mustn't cater to extremists.
Quote from: catfightlover40 on June 01, 2021, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: LQQKING4CATFIGHTER on May 31, 2021, 07:52:00 PM
Not sure how this became about political as asshole fans come from left, right and center. If you want to chat about this please look up my post "Political Catfight " MTG vs AOC is a big topic.
Fans need to sit back a wait for great matches to be filmed and not piss off the fighters booked Vs their fav Catfighter. The Catfighters should be the only ones doing the Trashtalking!!!
Well, if you don't account for disparity in relations of power then yes, it'd be equal, but it isn't, and will, not be for the foreseeable future. You could expect people who call empathetic people SJWs to stand back and stand down, but that would just mean not knowing anything about them. This is why one mustn't cater to extremists.
I grow up in a Housing Projects on welfare, so don't talk to me about power relations. Did you grow up poor in a the inner city? If no then it's you that has no idea about disparity. You have no idea about my background, so don't try and tell me what I understand and not.
You also might want to read someone's post before making a stupid post back. I told the Catfight fans that are posting and send stupid messages to the fighters to sit back and stop sending messaged to piss off the fighters!!!!
Quote from: LQQKING4CATFIGHTER on June 01, 2021, 02:54:38 PM
Quote from: catfightlover40 on June 01, 2021, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: LQQKING4CATFIGHTER on May 31, 2021, 07:52:00 PM
Not sure how this became about political as asshole fans come from left, right and center. If you want to chat about this please look up my post "Political Catfight " MTG vs AOC is a big topic.
Fans need to sit back a wait for great matches to be filmed and not piss off the fighters booked Vs their fav Catfighter. The Catfighters should be the only ones doing the Trashtalking!!!
Well, if you don't account for disparity in relations of power then yes, it'd be equal, but it isn't, and will, not be for the foreseeable future. You could expect people who call empathetic people SJWs to stand back and stand down, but that would just mean not knowing anything about them. This is why one mustn't cater to extremists.
I grow up in a Housing Projects on welfare, so don't talk to me about power relations. Did you grow up poor in a the inner city? If no then it's you that has no idea about disparity. You have no idea about my background, so don't try and tell me what I understand and not.
You also might want to read someone's post before making a stupid post back. I told the Catfight fans that are posting and send stupid messages to the fighters to sit back and stop sending messaged to piss off the fighters!!!!
Yes, I did, though I might call to the difference that the situation in your OP is a direct result of not taking angry men seriously and by inaction and egging them on they took over the playground 6 years ago, starting with the rhetoric first. Lack of empathy is sociopathy, very easy math. They might grandstand but the reason they were and belong to the woodworks is because they desperately need the support or inaction of other men to drag them to their own level.
By the way, neckbeards made this political, women, and women of color only want agency and acceptance which "hurts their feelings" 'cause then they do go into the kitchen being "trad women" and make them a sandwich.
Quote from: catfightlover40 on June 01, 2021, 03:33:49 PM
Quote from: LQQKING4CATFIGHTER on June 01, 2021, 02:54:38 PM
Quote from: catfightlover40 on June 01, 2021, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: LQQKING4CATFIGHTER on May 31, 2021, 07:52:00 PM
Not sure how this became about political as asshole fans come from left, right and center. If you want to chat about this please look up my post "Political Catfight " MTG vs AOC is a big topic.
Fans need to sit back a wait for great matches to be filmed and not piss off the fighters booked Vs their fav Catfighter. The Catfighters should be the only ones doing the Trashtalking!!!
Well, if you don't account for disparity in relations of power then yes, it'd be equal, but it isn't, and will, not be for the foreseeable future. You could expect people who call empathetic people SJWs to stand back and stand down, but that would just mean not knowing anything about them. This is why one mustn't cater to extremists.
I grow up in a Housing Projects on welfare, so don't talk to me about power relations. Did you grow up poor in a the inner city? If no then it's you that has no idea about disparity. You have no idea about my background, so don't try and tell me what I understand and not.
You also might want to read someone's post before making a stupid post back. I told the Catfight fans that are posting and send stupid messages to the fighters to sit back and stop sending messaged to piss off the fighters!!!!
Yes, I did, though I might call to the difference that the situation in your OP is a direct result of not taking angry men seriously and by inaction and egging them on they took over the playground 6 years ago, starting with the rhetoric first. Lack of empathy is sociopathy, very easy math. They might grandstand but the reason they were and belong to the woodworks is because they desperately need the support or inaction of other men to drag them to their own level.
By the way, neckbeards made this political, women, and women of color only want agency and acceptance which "hurts their feelings" 'cause then they do go into the kitchen being "trad women" and make them a sandwich.
You have no idea what your talking about! If you think the issue with asshole fans started 6 years ago, your crazy as internet trolls date back to the start of the internet in the 90's and a issue on this board from the very start!
It's also not only white men that are the trolls and victims are not all women of color! Trolls are both men and women and come in all colors!
I said it became more organized a decade ago, where 8chan used to be a central hub. Misogyny became a central motif, as many young men are angry with their mothers or later on with other women, and from that point on every issue is always somebody else's fault. Harassing professional fighters into "molding" them to do the fighting they want for free is but a facet of it, not an irrelevant thing of no importance. Nobody should be really surprised eventually people say the quiet part out loud.
Quote from: catfightlover40 on June 01, 2021, 06:46:01 PM
I said it became more organized a decade ago, where 8chan used to be a central hub. Misogyny became a central motif, as many young men are angry with their mothers or later on with other women, and from that point on every issue is always somebody else's fault. Harassing professional fighters into "molding" them to do the fighting they want for free is but a facet of it, not an irrelevant thing of no importance. Nobody should be really surprised eventually people say the quiet part out loud.
Wrong again... Before 8chan there was 4chan that was filled with incel trolls that hate women. The issue in this case is the fans in question like one fighter (Alexa Brooke) so much that they attack her rivals online. Comparing 8chan to this board is way off, there might be a few fans that have issues with women and like to see mixed matches with men beating women, but 99% of the fans on this board love women and f/f match or mixed matches with powerful women beating up on men. The issue with most Catfight fans is to much love!
Quote from: Thotless on June 01, 2021, 07:34:38 PM
Quote from: Die For Dina on May 30, 2021, 07:26:19 PM
Wait, surely you're not saying that the real human beings who put their bodies on the line for the fantasies of other people might be irritated by the constant fucking whining demands for more violence and more nastiness?
Who fucking knew?
This fetish is full of people with a near total lack of empathy. Colour me unsurprised.
Agreed. I enjoy the more erotic aspects of female combat and consider it a supplement to real life. I've never approached anyone who participates in videos and other media in the catfight/sexfight/titfight world and demanded anything of them. I'm just glad that some exceptionally talented and attractive women have been willing to do any of this at all.
I'll never understand the fascination with maiming/mutilating, pissing/shitting on people, or death fights. I'd wager that the further one reaches into those latter elements, the more likely you'll become the person harassing the very people who bring life to your fetish. We would all probably be better off with a general approach of thankfulness and gratitude towards the men and women who are our very unique celebrities.
You would be extremely wrong on that view of the death fight community. I find that community far more chill than the mainstream cat fight one. The most violent and vile threats I have seen here have come from fans of "real but sane " fighting. There is a ton of lip service to "i respect women" with a muttered "unless those bitches don't do what I want " from my experience as a member and admin.
BTW the deathfight fans comment is only in cyber. I know one long time member compared me to a Nazi commandant for doing them, but his best buddy also like seeing vaginas clawed so.. If someone actually wanted two women to fight to the death in real life, fuck that guy. To me enjoying something in cyber is like enjoying a game of Dungeons and Dragons. I haven't met too many players who actually wanted to fight an orc.
While maybe not every cat fight fan is a monster, there are more than people would like to admit with psychology towards women that I would find suspect. People have a hate on for mixed (even the guys who are being submissive to women) yet find the fellows into one sided fights where the dominators are masculine women over feminine women as fine. And the list goes on...
I'm a deathfight fan in cyber, but I'm often the first person on these boards to step up and defend the dignity and safety of women doing this stuff in real life. An extreme fantasy is an extreme fantasy, but even online, I'd sooner chew off my own arm than upset or hurt someone who's not into it.
I used to agonize about my kink, but now I've found a group of mostly very kind and loving people who get off on this fantasy in a safe and consensual way. In fact, many of them are the most kind and ethical people I know online. I'll be honest, I fall half in love with a lot of them because I can see that they face their dark side head on, and in their real interactions with people are VERY kind and ethical.
So, yeah... it might not be how you think.
Quote from: Thotless on June 01, 2021, 07:21:06 PM
I've got the person you're responding to blocked on every forum and board he shows up on, and stopped going to one story site because he's been given free reign to attack anyone and everyone there. Best to block and move on as everyone else was behaving like adults.
How does one block a user on this board?
It is sad to read or hear this happens, it really doesn't take much for that discouragement to be felt, it might not be one text or post to that fighter but a bunch of things that just built up frustration and disappointment till that one last post the fighters said "Enough".
I think if we add in the last year and the restrictions and no one really doing much real life, it probably just made her explode , hopefully a break and no contact she can clear her head and realize these people are just jealous and have a need to bash those they can't be or have , jealousy is in many forms but hate is the worse, we all need to doubly efforts for each other ho do this as pro or not and keep the chin up an fight going
Quote from: rin753 on May 31, 2021, 03:17:42 AM
I can guarantee you that many of the January 6 protestors have been so twisted around by social media that they thought they were storming the Capitol anonymously.
Rich
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Quote from: DottiD on June 03, 2021, 12:27:07 AM
It is sad to read or hear this happens, it really doesn't take much for that discouragement to be felt, it might not be one text or post to that fighter but a bunch of things that just built up frustration and disappointment till that one last post the fighters said "Enough".
I think if we add in the last year and the restrictions and no one really doing much real life, it probably just made her explode , hopefully a break and no contact she can clear her head and realize these people are just jealous and have a need to bash those they can't be or have , jealousy is in many forms but hate is the worse, we all need to doubly efforts for each other ho do this as pro or not and keep the chin up an fight going
I would like to think that we fighters have very thick skin. After all, if you are confident in yourself, your personal mental status is not going to be dependent upon how you are viewed by others. But they can sure screw up your mood.
With that said, it is always preferable to have people communicate with you in a pleasant manner, even if the content of the communication is potentially negative. Again, its how you communicate more than what you communicate. Being mean spirited will generate a defensive response in the recipient. I've been told some awful things in a respectful manner, and I deal with it. I don't feel "attacked." And then there are those who "attack" and make us regret talking with them at all. So, no matter what you are going to say, be pleasant, respectful and understand the recipient has feelings.
As fighters we do have "thicker skin" but lets be real here we are still people and what might get under our skin one day won't for months and so on, just saying maybe her life hit a snag, maybe a few to many losses , to much ridicule her finances took a hit who knows it wasn't just one little comment that caused a huge thing it was a million little building that wall, we all go through it just the degrees are different and how or what point it can't be handled anymore even if a burst of anger in a second