Why is it that whenever someone writes a story, the 'owner' of a particular lust or fetish requests that it to be thrown in?
It is so discouraging to have stupidly inappropriate aspects thrown in. So much better to let the author write what they feel and like.
Of course, if the author is asking for suggestions, that is an entirely different game.
Anyhow, in spite of those strong urges to bend the world to your special items, just write your own stories and stop asking others to bend their kinks in your direction.
ps in spite of my complete aversion to mixed matches, two on one fights, pro wrestling, strap ons, and a host of other wonderful kinks, I hope those who enjoy these things continue to do so. Just don't request insertion in other stories.
Fetish stories are different from a regular story that has a flow of setup-conflict-resolution. Even if the catfight fetish were an accepted one, this still would remain true. As such there's a difference between realizing one's own fantasies and composing a story.
It's a bit closer to writing for an orchestra where you expect certain instruments to compete with each other, but at the "end of the day," it's a human who blasts a horn or pulls the strings. It's wise to know how far they can go to create harmony.
For a very long time, this fetish world on account of disposable income was ruled by guys, and from a technical standpoint, it's easier to write for men as mostly they look for something for the "spank bank", where the deposit can easily consist of stock characters. Women on average are invested more in the characters, in their individuality, in the sensual aspects.
Therefore I do support that stories are written by others for a multifactor of influences, chief among them is knowing in what we may differ. I grew up in a police state that actively persecuted pornography, and individuality in general, so it should come as no surprise that there was no sexual revolution either.
What I am asking is that writers who want to write treat writing as an art form. Spend hours, days or weeks carefully selecting your words.
Get a second and third set of eyes to read it and give feedback. Revise and revise again. Make sure it reads well, that every word chosen
is properly used and precisely conveys your message. Don't go publishing until you have worked hard upon your product. Don't just slap
words down.
Quote from: catfightlover40 on May 18, 2020, 06:43:35 PM
Women on average are invested more in the characters, in their individuality, in the sensual aspects.
I agree. I think that's why my favorite writers here tend to be women
Quote from: jessiefite on May 18, 2020, 11:04:42 PM
What I am asking is that writers who want to write treat writing as an art form. Spend hours, days or weeks carefully selecting your words.
Get a second and third set of eyes to read it and give feedback. Revise and revise again. Make sure it reads well, that every word chosen
is properly used and precisely conveys your message. Don't go publishing until you have worked hard upon your product. Don't just slap
words down.
I agree with this also. I realize the main purpose of writing stories is to have fun and I wouldn't want getting an A in English Comp class to be a requirement for posting stories. However, as discussed in my profile, I take the art aspect seriously. Although I have no illusions of my stories landing book deals or movie rights, it's knowing that many readers hold a high standard for quality writing that prompts me to do my best. Thank you Jessiefite.
I used to write stories with other people for permission and it started off okay, but eventually some people would want their characters to swing more one way than another. Ego clashes of always having to win, etc. It got harder and harder to accommodate because the stories weren't interesting, they became single tone and essentially squash matches. Regardless of who the other person was it was also make it one sided, never about the struggle of dominance. So I stopped for about 15yrs because I lost ALL motivation with collaborating with people and their characters or themselves.
I've had very positive experiences with collaborations here. I've also received offers for collaborations where the requester really wanted a customized story. There's a place for both but they are very different writing experiences. In a collaboration, all contributors share the same basic vision for the story with each one's ideas or character enriching the story as a whole. A customized story is written according to the specifications of the requester with the goal of the story feeling very personal to 1 or 2 people. The story may seem utterly fantastic to the customized story recipient but may not have much broad appeal to a large readership. I can see where there would be problems if the distinction between collaboration vs customized story is blurred. The key would be for each contributor to discuss the concept of the story at the start and reach some mutual agreement of what each one brings to the table and expectations for each character - especially if you don't want superwoman unexpectedly showing up and taking over the story.
Quote from: nonothing33 on May 19, 2020, 03:47:10 AM
I used to write stories with other people for permission and it started off okay, but eventually some people would want their characters to swing more one way than another. Ego clashes of always having to win, etc. It got harder and harder to accommodate because the stories weren't interesting, they became single tone and essentially squash matches. Regardless of who the other person was it was also make it one sided, never about the struggle of dominance. So I stopped for about 15yrs because I lost ALL motivation with collaborating with people and their characters or themselves.
I used to exclusively do collaborations when I first started writing and have enjoyed the challenge of trying to "mesh" the likes, desires and wants of two parties. That said, I am pretty particular of who I'll do them with and I'm fairly rigid with limits and up front with what I am willing to do. We went so far as to create a "questionnaire" that we would send to people that wanted to be included in a story. Basically, we would treat them as guest stars in our series. While we haven't done any stories with other members in a long time (I've been reshaping and doing a lot of specific things lately), it is something that I'd like to revisit eventually.
I haven't written anything in a long time but when I was writing there were several people I collaborated with on stories. It went okay although the end result is never exactly what I would have written if it was only me. But that's one thing - I have had people comment after I posted stories and ask to see other things. More violence and blood, more hair-pulling and very skinny women vs. very heavy women.
I never added any of those because that's not part of my fetish/fantasy thing. I write stories I want to read and I leave it to others to write the stories they like, with the fetishes they prefer. I don't think you can write something with say, a foot fetish, without being into that and still make it a great story. JMO and not criticizing anyone.
I have written a number of stories for friends. I usually try to take their requests in and use them the best I can. Where I completely fail is when they request something completely out of my wheel house. If I can't get into it, I just really struggle to make it work.
I haven't asked anyone to write anything about me, but people have written stories involving me before. I am happy to have stories written about me and that people would take time to do so. I am a wrestler, and not into catfighting but I wouldn't demand someone write a story about me only wrestling. There are some super talented writers on here, far better than I could wish to ever write. I feel kinda awkward writing a story about myself, but I might try it some time.
There have been a few writers whom i personally have enjoyed who stopped writing due to constant critism. I find this really annoying. I have nothing against people saying what they enjoyed or didnt but when there is just constant negativity because a story didnt contain there particular fetish, then why re these idiots even bothering to read the stories.
I have in the past requested stories but I dont randomly ask writers who obviously dont share the same interests as me to write them. I did it as a post on the board and not as a direct message. Also Im quite open that I am not a very good writer so I appreciate those who have the talent.
I would like to chime in. I tend to write stories that I would love to read. I have only done one for a friend but it was because he drew some amazing artwork from me. In addition, the story he wanted was right up my alley. I have collaborated with Diane on parts of my western series and it worked well.
Commissions for me are difficult because my style may not be what the person requested. Maybe I am set in my ways, but I do not plan to change my style of writing or the fights in them for someone.