Is Rhonda Rousey so good she has become boring?
Rousey's last FOUR fights were won in a combined time of ** 130 seconds* and not all by extension holds; she took Correia in 34 seconds with a straight right punch. Let me say that another way for those of us not into stand up striking fights. Rhonda Rousey has taken out four professional fighters in less than half the time of a single round. Nothing near that has ever been achieved by any fighter, male or female.
The next major fights for Rhonda will be Holly Holm and Miesha Tate. Rousey comes mainly from the wrestling side of MA, and the closest she comes to a weakness is her punching game. Holly is champion boxer and has earned a shot at Rousey, others who have fought Rousey have had losses.
FIGHT stomp! FIGHT stomp! FIGHT stomp!!
Rousey is the best woman fighting on the planet right now, but a win by her is not a cosmic requirement. Holly Holm does need more MMA experience, she doesn't have an answer for Rhonda's superb judo skills. Even so Holm is strongest where Rhonda is weakest. She could beat Rousey, and oh would that be SWEET. Tate is the only one who has fought Rousey into a third round. She will have been training for a year specifically to fight Rhonda Rousey. I think she will mount a greater challenge to Rousey that Holly Holm.
Most of all I pray to the gods of fight that Rhoda will get past her hang up with Justino's juicing and everybody will agree to a chatchweight of 140lb so she and Cris cyborg can go at it. What a WAR that would be!! That fight is a cosmic requirement, and would be a turn on of supernova fire.
A largely ignored factor is that Rousey's endurance has never really been tested. Tate is the only one who has taken her into round three, so
Miesha could test he; but *Cyborg* is one who has the power and diamond-hard determination to take her way beyond anything Rousey has ever experienced....if cyborg can endure RRs world class moves.
BTW, the Holm/Rousey fight has been moved from January in Vegas to November 14 in Australia.
UFC168, the best women't mma fight ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkNf8wxW7Fo
The question that i would love to have the answer is how really strong is Rhonda Rousey? and others female fighters of the same size?
I would like to see her engaged and compared in submission fights with strong and big females bodybuilders around 175 to 200lbs for more than 5' 8 to 6 feet tall
I hnow that Rhonda is around 5'7 for 135 lbs.
Do you believe a very muscular Fbb like Nuriye Evans or some other girl of this size ( 5'9 for 190lbs) could resist to her and perhaps win a fight... or she would get ko'ed
very quickly or submitted by a MMA fighter like Rhonda?
At this level , does a much larger size can compensate the skill , stamina and experience of a lighter mma fighter?
yes her fights r short and boring but she has made me upper 5 figures so i deal with it.lol
I truly believe Ronda is beatable. Don't get me wrong, she is a damn good and well-rounded fighter. Her greatest skill is capitalizing on mistakes made by her opponents. I think once they (the UFC) find a striker with KO power that can get to Ronda before she closes on her, we will see Ronda on her back. I don't think Holly will be the one, but one can hope.
Quote from: sinclairfan on October 23, 2015, 10:15:00 PM
Quote from: FitOfficerWife on October 23, 2015, 10:20:28 AM
I truly believe Ronda is beatable. Don't get me wrong, she is a damn good and well-rounded fighter. Her greatest skill is capitalizing on mistakes made by her opponents. I think once they (the UFC) find a striker with KO power that can get to Ronda before she closes on her, we will see Ronda on her back. I don't think Holly will be the one, but one can hope.
....except that even when KO's happen in WMMA, it's never from a single punch.
Watch Gina Carano vs. Rosi Sexton. You will see a WMMA one punch KO.
Quote from: karenfighting81 on October 23, 2015, 11:41:01 PM
Ronda is not going to be fighting much longer. After Holly Holm I only see her fighting 4 more times. Between really having no challengers (yet) and Hollywood calling she has no reason to continue fighting.
Just watched the fight Don suggested. Damn what a punch!
But an observation in Gina's fight with Cyborg... Gina appeared to have Cyborg a couple times in that fight and let her off the hook imo. That, coupled with the debatable "quick stoppage" at the end of the round, I kinda wonder if Gina wanted to lose. It seemed to me that with her popularity at that time and being undefeated prior to that fight, was it too hard to walk away from mma for the Hollywood career? Did she lose purposely to make it easier to justify walking away from mma to the public?
Now Ronda has Hollywood calling. Could we see history repeat? Maybe Ronda has to lose to walk away in her prime for better career opportunities.
Exhausted or not, that hook was right on the button.
Quote from: sinclairfan on October 23, 2015, 10:15:00 PM
Quote from: FitOfficerWife on October 23, 2015, 10:20:28 AM
I truly believe Ronda is beatable. Don't get me wrong, she is a damn good and well-rounded fighter. Her greatest skill is capitalizing on mistakes made by her opponents. I think once they (the UFC) find a striker with KO power that can get to Ronda before she closes on her, we will see Ronda on her back. I don't think Holly will be the one, but one can hope.
....except that even when KO's happen in WMMA, it's never from a single punch.
umm..she took out behe correia in seconds with a single right, ref stoppage, true, but she wins with singles.
In mma ref stoppage is lots more common that is mma, which has lots more punishing hit variety, and it seems to have become a kind of tradition, maybe the standard is promoter want to see less hurt to "girls" or think they can take less - if so that would never be said aloud. But I will say- entirely a guess.
it is really good to see my post about Rousey be brought back- at least I was offline for a while and came back to see it here, and not through me "bumping" it back up.
Let me add a new opinion to my thoughts. One really interesting thing to consider is that RR's endurance has never once been really tested. the fight with Miesha Tate came the closet, going into the early 3rd round. Cyborg could test that a lot more. RR traines like a beast, and gets lots of aerobic, but still...would be a Cyborg advantage. Also, cris throws a hammer and RR is not so used to getting hit in the head.
OMG just imagine if RR got taken down with a single punch KO. WOW.
in answer to desmo. There are reasons MMA sees no true FBB players. Yes, they would be stronger in sheer muscle power than mma players, but that is not what mma is about, and not what mma fighters train for. As a judoka and the bit of jujutsu class I did I was told to go for more of a swimmer type build. You don't see much definition at all on Rousey, Zingano, Carano, Tate etc.
BUT, yes Rousey could win a match vs them with a submission, IMHO, - because leverage and pain work on an FBB, or a guy, no matter how big n strong. This may be an 'out there' opinion, but I have thrown guys who were 200lbs in a few seconds; get below their center of gravity, have the move ingrained in muscle memory and let gravity be your friend. Then if it is Rousey, she gets her arm bar sunk in by skills not power, and her strength is enough to put plenty hurt into it. PAIN registers in an female lifter as much as anyone else. They would submit. A lot depends on fight-luck.
Great to see so many interested in MMA, and surprising to me at this site.
Quote from: karenfighting81 on October 25, 2015, 10:27:57 PM
To be fair, even men's MMA fights end in a one punch or even one strike KO. Maybe someone gets "dropped" and the winner bounces Going with a quick ground & proud which results in a TKO victory but pure KO endings are pretty rare.
@ Jill
Yeah why take that pounding when you can be rich and not put your body at risk long term in Hollywood? And despite her never getting really touch in a bout, Ronda 's had a few injuries. The training is just too brutal. Frankly I'm a bit surprised she hasn't had anything big yet *knock on wood*.
Good point Karen, the thing is not simply one PUNCH, esp in mma, but one STRIKE. quite a few mma matches have been ended with a single kick..ohh hand I remembe one of holly holm vs a black woman, whose name I don't remember.
Again- Why isn't mma popular here, it is actual women actually fighting?? the real deal. I think cuz this is a guy's fantasy site, with majority guy chatters, and also sexual prejudice- the idea that scratch n bite is somehow the "natural" way for women to fight. Keeps us nice and unthreatening and somehow not the equal of men who do "real fighting"., TOTAL BS, and the usual lible against women. I get so sick of it. But hey, we are here to have fun...
Is Carrano in the same weight class as Rousey? Ever think they may fight?
Thanks
T
http://do.not.share.copyrighted.content/club93513103?z=video249272350_171302462%2F9e0abcac69cdefe984
i dont like women MMA But the face to face scenes are very hot
Quote from: karenfighting81 on October 27, 2015, 03:20:38 AM
Gina will never fight Ronda, there is literally no incentive. And I considering Cyborg got busted for PED's, I don't think Gina is bother by that lost at all. I also think Ronda is never going to fight Cyborg as well. Again no incentive.
That's a shame. If Rousey takes out Holly Holm in less than a minute people will be pissed. At least I will be.
T
Quote from: Tiger80 on October 29, 2015, 01:11:37 AM
Quote from: karenfighting81 on October 27, 2015, 03:20:38 AM
Gina will never fight Ronda, there is literally no incentive. And I considering Cyborg got busted for PED's, I don't think Gina is bother by that lost at all. I also think Ronda is never going to fight Cyborg as well. Again no incentive.
I started this thread and will step out yet again. RR has indeed giotten so good she is boring and/or irritating with her excellence at this point. Yes RR will take out Holm and do it within the first round, I think within the first minute, and yes I think Rousey and Cyborg will fight, with Rousey winning, though Cyborg is the only one, on the scene today besides Tate who has a chance vs RR.
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Quote from: Tiger80 on October 29, 2015, 01:11:37 AM
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Gina will never fight Ronda, there is literally no incentive. And I considering Cyborg got busted for PED's, I don't think Gina is bother by that lost at all. I also think Ronda is never going to fight Cyborg as well. Again no incentive.
I started this thread and will step out yet again. RR has indeed giotten so good she is boring and/or irritating with her excellence at this point. Yes RR will take out Holm and do it within the first round, I think within the first minute, and yes I think Rousey and Cyborg will fight, with Rousey winning, though Cyborg is the only one, on the scene today besides Tate who has a chance vs RR.
Changing my attention to Paige VanZant. There's some action in her fights.
T
I don't really see Holmes winning but she has lots of boxing experince and is taller than Rousey. I too would like to see a Rousey fight go into the second or third round and see her pushed hard. It would be good for female MMA and I think Rhonda wil be more of champion if she eventually retires with at least one long, hard fight on her record book.
I doubt Ronda will allow this to become a boxing match. Think she wil quickly sucker Holly into one of her judo throws and go for the arm.
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Karen you're correct it was lame. They're just trying to provide some kind of drama to the match.
T
I wondered if Holly culd do it with her boxing record and , as a frequent visitor to Albuquerque she is my sort of home town fighter.
I think its great ro omens MMA to se such a shock upset and to prove Rousey isnt unbetable, endles Rousey wins would have damged th womnes scene.
I hope Holly can manage and leverage the publicity like Rousey has done.
Im no MMA expert but from what little Ive seen/read so far on the fight it sems to me that Rhonda may be the world's best woman wrestler but maybe not a smart fighter?
Why did she try to go toe to toe with a taller woman who was 34 - 0 in boxing?
Quote from: karenfighting81 on November 15, 2015, 08:48:19 AM
30 seconds Holly popped her with a left jab and messes up Ronda's nose. She wasn't the same after that. We all been there it happens to even the best but Holly was clearly the better fighter. She ran rings around Ronda and beat the fuck out of her.
Great fight. Hey Karen, what about that kick to the side of her head? That was awesome.
T
Yes,t aht hit has ben posted on one of teh UK's seriuos paapers teh Guardian.Nice to se th fight geting wide coverage.
Great pic WHAM
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/15/holly-holm-stuns-ronda-rousey-for-ufc-womens-bantamweight-title#img-1
I don't root for people to lose but I was glad to see Holm triumphant. Rhonda was getting way too much attention. As an attorney I am only as good as my last case. Same can be said with fighters... and eventually an opponent will come along with more fire in the belly to win.
The question that should be asked is why didn't all Rhondas opponents use Holly's approach? Rhonda is a grappler not a striker so let her come to you and pop her every time she goes in for the attack. A grappler can't grapple you unless they grab you. Keep your distance don't attack her. But everyone wanted to play her game and walked right up to her.
Holly's FOOT to Ronda's head was perfect. Ronda still looked hot in defeet!
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/11/ronda-rousey-ufc-193-upset-holly-holm-highlights-knockout#slideIdslide-13
Congrats Holly!
Tony
Quote from: tomboy999999 on November 15, 2015, 11:13:31 AM
I wondered if Holly culd do it with her boxing record and , as a frequent visitor to Albuquerque she is my sort of home town fighter.
I think its great ro omens MMA to se such a shock upset and to prove Rousey isnt unbetable, endles Rousey wins would have damged th womnes scene.
I hope Holly can manage and leverage the publicity like Rousey has done.
Im no MMA expert but from what little Ive seen/read so far on the fight it sems to me that Rhonda may be the world's best woman wrestler but maybe not a smart fighter?
Why did she try to go toe to toe with a taller woman who was 34 - 0 in boxing?
because her ego set her up. Do u even remember that she wanted to fight Mayweather?
Anyways about the fight i dont care as long as a blonde won. And look the two best at the end were in fact blonde. Sorry brownies...
I said it before and I'll say it again.... I think this is Ronda's ticket out of MMA to focus on other interests such as Hollywood. She couldn't walk away undefeated. Not saying she lost purposely, just that now she can walk away....much like Gina Carano did after her only loss.