Just wondering if any of you ladies out there ever had a wrestling or catfight where the loser got it with a dildo from the winner?
I'm considering having a match with a woman who is lesbian and I am straight. She is offering $500 to me if I win but I'll be forced to let her have her way with me if I lose. I've never done anything like this before and was wondering if it's worth the risk or not? My friend Lisa says it would be like consensual rape almost.
I feel as if I can win against this woman.
Is this a good friend who wants to have a match?
I can only speak to this from the male perspective; I have had done similar with males and found it worthwhile. However, I believe each person, whether male or female, has to come terms with it assuming they might lose. If you win, it is much easier.
Somewhere on this site, I saw a couple of posts where females discussed rapefights describing this very topic. You might try a search for that.
"Consensual rape" is a misnomer. You consent to this woman penetrating you with a dildo, or you do not.
You may withdraw consent, and if you have any hesitation, you should probably tell her that you might do so.
One question: If you have no sexual interest in other women, what is your desire to have this match with those stakes?
It also seems to be an odd tradeoff: One woman get sexually assaulted if she loses, the other is out some money. So unless you are wrestling a female miser, I am not seeing an equality of stakes and risk here. You are risking emotional trauma, she is risking some money.
I'm male, granted, but also a statistician. How sure are you that you could win? I doubt that it's a lock (at least in her mind), or she wouldn't have made the challenge. I gotta agree with nutmeg here. Unless you're bi-curious or desperate for money, I don't see the risk being worthwhile. You might check out a couple of Ultimate Surrender fourth rounds before agreeing to this match.
Unless you're completely ok with what happens should you lose, I wouldn't do it. As Meg says, there's not equal risk/reward here and it really sounds like your opponent is super confident she can beat you.
Quote from: RedEnforcer on June 18, 2014, 12:04:24 PM
Unless you're completely ok with what happens should you lose, I wouldn't do it. As Meg says, there's not equal risk/reward here and it really sounds like your opponent is super confident she can beat you.
Pretty much this. Although, her opponents confidence level is probably based on how much $500 is for her, so it really depends.
Also, if you were to theoretically do this you may want to bring someone with you like a significant other to make sure that if she wins and you're really freaking about the stakes she doesn't attempt to force you to do it anyways. But yeah to avoid any of this at all I would just think long and hard about how comfortable you are having this happen to you if you do lose. If their is even slightly hesitation I would probably not fight / renegotiate states.
Aside from that nice to see you posting again Kelly! If you don't mind me asking have you and Lisa had any more fights?
Quote from: ivbn2cavalier link=topic=40719.msg314603#msg314603 date=1403113991 I would also add, I don't believe this woman will let you out of the stake,b] everyone can call it what they want[/b], but once you make the deal, I think she plans to hold you to it!
"Rape"? What would YOU call it if she were to forcibly penetrate the OP with a dildo against her will?
so true Meg!!!!
For me – it isn't a question of winning, but of whether or not I would even want to get down on the mat with a person who would offer such a proposition. My answer would be - no. Do what you want, be careful who you do it with.
Quote from: archie43 on June 19, 2014, 07:03:39 AM
Quote from: nutmeg78 on June 18, 2014, 06:11:27 AM
It also seems to be an odd tradeoff: One woman get sexually assaulted if she loses, the other is out some money. So unless you are wrestling a female miser, I am not seeing an equality of stakes and risk here. You are risking emotional trauma, she is risking some money.
It's odd because it's a load of bollocks. Can't you people see that? Really?
The offer itself isn't impossible. I could offer you a million dollars to tap dance for me. What would be improbable is that I would actually have that money and/or actually honor it. Likewise here. Someone could actually make a proposal that lopsided. The other person accepting it on the other hand..
What I and others have pointed out is why it would be improbable for a straight and sane woman to actually ACCEPT those stakes. It remains to be seen if the OP reacts in a way that is reasonable.
I too have spoken to women who were challenged by Acquaintances, who knew they were in the subculture, they would except the challenge if they were in the mood. Too be on the safe side they always took a second along with them. So Kelly situation isn't at all unique.
Quote from: archie43 on June 19, 2014, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: nutmeg78 on June 19, 2014, 10:32:54 AM
Quote from: archie43 on June 19, 2014, 07:03:39 AM
Quote from: nutmeg78 on June 18, 2014, 06:11:27 AM
It also seems to be an odd tradeoff: One woman get sexually assaulted if she loses, the other is out some money. So unless you are wrestling a female miser, I am not seeing an equality of stakes and risk here. You are risking emotional trauma, she is risking some money.
It's odd because it's a load of bollocks. Can't you people see that? Really?
The offer itself isn't impossible. I could offer you a million dollars to tap dance for me. What would be improbable is that I would actually have that money and/or actually honor it. Likewise here. Someone could actually make a proposal that lopsided. The other person accepting it on the other hand..
What I and others have pointed out is why it would be improbable for a straight and sane woman to actually ACCEPT those stakes. It remains to be seen if the OP reacts in a way that is reasonable.
So someone offers this and the person receiving the offer comes on to a forum to ask what she should do? Yeah right.
So what if they ask the question? Same question could have been asked out of curiosity without saying they were involved. My answer would still be the same: Doubtful anyone would actually do it given the circumstances for the reasons I mentioned. If suggesting respectfully and calmly that a story might be dubious equates accepting it as fact in your mind, that's your problem.
Plus if anything it saves time. If the thread becomes an accounting of the fight actually occurring, all the reasons why this seems far fetched have been said in advance :)
Quote from: archie43 on June 19, 2014, 07:03:39 AM
Quote from: nutmeg78 on June 18, 2014, 06:11:27 AM
It also seems to be an odd tradeoff: One woman get sexually assaulted if she loses, the other is out some money. So unless you are wrestling a female miser, I am not seeing an equality of stakes and risk here. You are risking emotional trauma, she is risking some money.
It's odd because it's a load of bollocks. Can't you people see that? Really?
There are many times during the life of a village when it becomes clear that exciting the lives of others with my personality isn't in an of itself "destiny". When these times arise I feel compelled to offer my sage advice and services to "women" such as yourself. I would strongly recommend that you take your friend up on her offer but not before practicing and training. If you can find your way to San Francisco I will be happy to meet you at one of the BART stops or greet you at the airport and put you up in my apartment. I will allow you to wrestle me and submit to the same consequences when you lose (no dildo necessary). I will forgo my normal fee of $100 per match and allow you to wrestle me until you actually win or feel confident in your abilities to defeat another woman without fear of any ensuing SO activity. You will provide your own food and toilet paper (Seriously? wtf is it with you women and TP?). I will cover your rent. By the end of your stay I will guarantee that you will either be completely ready to defeat any same sized woman in North America or be completely ready to handle her deliverance 'stake' of strap-on penetration in the event of a loss. My training will change your life and rock your entire world. "So say we all". ;-)
I can attest to the fact that OP and the statements made are genuine. There is a LOT of events that have lead up to this. I can say this because the woman Kelly would be wrestling, is one of my friends (Emily), who recently had a match with losing_lisa from here. Lisa won the match but the stakes were not the same as this one. Her match was for bikinis, which regretfully, Emily did not honor at the end of the match.
I also had a match against Lisa's boyfriend, who is straight, and I won that match. Out of respect for Lisa, I will not go into details of that match. I kind of blackmailed Lisa into her match up against Emily, which I now fully admit I was totally wrong for doing. I do not know Kelley's sexual orientation, if she is bi or what have you, or even if she will accept the terms of the match. I DO know as fact, that BOTH Kelly and Lisa are REAL females and that I have meet them both in person, as well as Lisa's boyfriend, catfightguy.
It might have been nice to ask the questions as to what has lead up to this, before throwing the bullshit flag. These types of matches happen all the time and there are indeed people with fetishes like this or similar to, including myself.
Meg u r the best!!!!!!