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Title: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 01, 2013, 08:20:53 PM
Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy  fought today at ECC. Was it a good one? Yeah. Was it real good? Yeah. Was it real real good? Find out when released this summer.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: angrmgmt on July 01, 2013, 10:25:45 PM
Sounds great. A couple of suggestions:

1. Post a few teaser pics in your Yahoo group.
2. When the clip is released, inform us in the Producer Announcements area.

I'm looking forward to the match. I enjoyed the Hollie vs. Inara match, as well as the Michelle vs. Valentina match (the tight, cutoff jeans shorts were a nice touch).
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: thirstybeermonster on July 02, 2013, 03:28:14 PM
Much face slapping?
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: adzee on July 02, 2013, 06:02:29 PM
Good, can't wait to see this one ;D
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: walker on July 03, 2013, 05:36:11 AM
Maggy is a strong looking girl. This could be a tough fight for Hollie.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: Wifefights49 on July 05, 2013, 11:06:54 PM
When can we prchase the DVD?
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: walker on July 07, 2013, 12:30:12 AM
Is there much face slapping.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: walker on July 07, 2013, 12:30:59 AM
Is there much face slapping?
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: cffightfan on July 07, 2013, 01:27:04 AM
Quote from: walker on July 07, 2013, 12:30:59 AM
Is there much face slapping?

this is from another Hollie fight, but only the people attending that day
know for sure.

Hollie in Purple Lingerie



(https://s4ck.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi77.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj51%2Fbrb1299%2FHollie_Dunaway%2FScreenShot176.jpg&hash=9db78d1b02e547eaa3f0a2b381962c0b963dfa69) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/brb1299/media/Hollie_Dunaway/ScreenShot176.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: Wifefights49 on July 07, 2013, 02:22:15 AM
i think that pic is from the recent fight
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: cffightfan on July 07, 2013, 02:27:28 AM
Quote from: Wifefights49 on July 07, 2013, 02:22:15 AM
i think that pic is from the recent fight

well I wish.. but a previous fight for her. an example of how hard Hollie
can slap. summer release for Hollie vs Maggy looking at ecc yahoo.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: Wifefights49 on July 07, 2013, 02:33:22 AM
Who was Hollie fighting in pic?...Can that DVD be purchsed?
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: cffightfan on July 07, 2013, 03:17:44 AM
Quote from: walker on July 03, 2013, 05:36:11 AM
Maggy is a strong looking girl. This could be a tough fight for Hollie.


The Sexy Maggy

(https://s4ck.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi77.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj51%2Fbrb1299%2FHollie_Dunaway%2FScreenShot175.jpg&hash=21cd919b705f43b3c7bf5aca09b7f9bff7d3fb9b) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/brb1299/media/Hollie_Dunaway/ScreenShot175.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: Tomico on July 07, 2013, 04:38:08 AM
Quote from: Wifefights49 on July 07, 2013, 02:33:22 AM
Who was Hollie fighting in pic?...Can that DVD be purchsed?

That is Aubrey. Yup you can buy it, definately a good fight, recommended.

It is from ECNWC, CF-49, order from here http://ecnwc.com/page6.html

(DVD also includes a second catfight Jemma vs Brooke)
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 07, 2013, 05:33:37 AM
Quote from: walker on July 07, 2013, 12:30:59 AM
Is there much face slapping?
Yes, Hollie likes to slap and Maggy returned the favor.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: angrmgmt on July 07, 2013, 02:59:01 PM
Quote from: Tomico on July 07, 2013, 04:38:08 AM
That is Aubrey. Yup you can buy it, definately a good fight, recommended.
It is from ECNWC, CF-49, order from here http://ecnwc.com/page6.html
(DVD also includes a second catfight Jemma vs Brooke)

I agree with Tomico. There are two recent ECNWC DVDs that feature Hollie - Hollie vs Jemma (CF-48) and Hollie vs Aubrey (CF-49). Both are fantastic productions that demonstrate Hollie's toughness, tenacity, and incredible sexiness.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: pstevo99 on July 07, 2013, 04:35:39 PM
When is the fight  to be released looking forward to this one could be a classic
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: ##catfitewatcher314 on July 07, 2013, 04:51:51 PM
how is east coast compared to ECNWC  just asking
Title: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: cffightfan on July 07, 2013, 06:24:14 PM
Quote from: pstevo99 on July 07, 2013, 04:35:39 PM
When is the fight  to be released looking forward to this one could be a classic

ecc said summer for release,
confirmed face slaps, and as always with ecc vicious hair pulling no doubt. looking
forward to the first photoset with these two kittens. wow!

Maggy a Sexy Powerhouse
(https://s4ck.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi77.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj51%2Fbrb1299%2F7de899ab9e3b9f8391c003a1e8a24efd.jpeg&hash=4373302183dbe8a2318f8621e9ef38682edf2f42) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/brb1299/media/7de899ab9e3b9f8391c003a1e8a24efd.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: Wifefights49 on July 07, 2013, 06:40:35 PM
This match is the most highly awaited release ever!
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: cffightfan on July 07, 2013, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: Wifefights49 on July 07, 2013, 06:40:35 PM
This match is the most highly awaited release ever!

truly two sexy girls went at it that day. hell i'm thinking rematch without
seeing first one. its a burning question that only will be answered in time.

Hollie  
(https://s4ck.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi77.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj51%2Fbrb1299%2FHollie_Dunaway%2F_MG_0933a.jpg&hash=09ba0bf075ce7a5d1dfdb4cd99594ccdb07ed6f4) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/brb1299/media/Hollie_Dunaway/_MG_0933a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 07, 2013, 10:47:54 PM
Hollie is a better cat fighter now than she was a year ago.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: cffightfan on July 08, 2013, 01:54:46 AM
Quote from: East Coast Cats on July 07, 2013, 10:47:54 PM
Hollie is a better cat fighter now than she was a year ago.


hard to imagine these two bruised and battered, but no way they could have
finished this fight without a few wounds. did anyone gets a few photo's on their
phones that can be posted, haha I know not for this type event. if producing I would
keep a cap on that too, but a post of one or two photo's while it's in editing would be
great, or get crazy and put an entire set on yahoo. shoot, how much to buy the set?
producers have to eat too.

(https://s4ck.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi77.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj51%2Fbrb1299%2FHollie_Dunaway%2F4a7b8bc1-c9c0-4699-a027-09bf99d79f80.jpg&hash=4dc2ca0e3d195d3f0ee0b9d54a5a76c354cfa3ce) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/brb1299/media/Hollie_Dunaway/4a7b8bc1-c9c0-4699-a027-09bf99d79f80.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: Wifefights49 on July 09, 2013, 04:05:02 PM
ECC...can you give us a target date for release?
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 13, 2013, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: Wifefights49 on July 09, 2013, 04:05:02 PM
ECC...can you give us a target date for release?
Not an exact date, but I expect it to be in late August or early September.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: pstevo99 on July 13, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
Quote from: East Coast Cats on July 13, 2013, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: Wifefights49 on July 09, 2013, 04:05:02 PM
ECC...can you give us a target date for release?
Not an exact date, but I expect it to be in late August or early September.

BOOOOOOOOOOOO we want it now we want it now we want it now we want it now hahahahaahhahah counting the days to see hollie in action again
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 14, 2013, 07:20:44 AM
Quote from: pstevo99 on July 13, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
Quote from: East Coast Cats on July 13, 2013, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: Wifefights49 on July 09, 2013, 04:05:02 PM
ECC...can you give us a target date for release?
Not an exact date, but I expect it to be in late August or early September.

BOOOOOOOOOOOO we want it now we want it now we want it now we want it now hahahahaahhahah counting the days to see hollie in action again
Good chance you'll be counting more than once.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: cffightfan on July 16, 2013, 02:19:01 PM

Maggy as biker babe, wish I had photogs name for photo credit. what a great venue for a catfight in the future  
(https://s4ck.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi77.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj51%2Fbrb1299%2FMaggy10.jpg&hash=84ac974ebe5a0bb422f81ff8324a01c0a924193c) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/brb1299/media/Maggy10.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: Wifefights49 on July 16, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
Maggie looks tough...No doubt she gave Hollie a good fight
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: cffightfan on July 16, 2013, 11:14:10 PM
Quote from: Wifefights49 on July 16, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
Maggie looks tough...No doubt she gave Hollie a good fight

the photographer really captured Maggy in his shoot, have to find out who that is.
to me this photo just says volumes about what must have gone down at ecc. thankfully
it was caught on video.  the chopper photog could have shot this a 100 different ways.
her athletic beauty  resting on the chopper with the earth background, holy smokes its perfection.
Maggy and Hollie are both top models and ooze sexy, and compete like there is no tomorrow.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 16, 2013, 11:26:13 PM
Quote from: East Coast Cats on July 14, 2013, 07:20:44 AM
Quote from: pstevo99 on July 13, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
Quote from: East Coast Cats on July 13, 2013, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: Wifefights49 on July 09, 2013, 04:05:02 PM
ECC...can you give us a target date for release?
Not an exact date, but I expect it to be in late August or early September.

BOOOOOOOOOOOO we want it now we want it now we want it now we want it now hahahahaahhahah counting the days to see hollie in action again
Good chance you'll be counting more than once.
What I meant by that is that Hollie likely will have another match at ECC in the late fall. I have already asked her.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 16, 2013, 11:35:08 PM
Quote from: Wifefights49 on July 16, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
Maggie looks tough...No doubt she gave Hollie a good fight
Maggie did not disappoint.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 16, 2013, 11:41:26 PM
Quote from: East Coast Cats on July 16, 2013, 11:35:08 PM
Quote from: Wifefights49 on July 16, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
Maggie looks tough...No doubt she gave Hollie a good fight
Maggie did not disappoint.
Maggy that is.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: cffightfan on July 16, 2013, 11:44:28 PM
YES!  and who is on the short list to fight Hollie, that's a poll question that
people could get into.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: Wifefights49 on July 17, 2013, 08:04:54 PM
Jenn from We Bring IT & ECNWC would be a good match up for Hollie
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: walker on July 20, 2013, 06:32:50 AM
I think Maggy gave Hollie one hell of a fight.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: Wifefights49 on July 21, 2013, 02:00:52 AM
When will this much awaited match finally be released?
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 22, 2013, 08:36:53 PM
Quote from: Wifefights49 on July 21, 2013, 02:00:52 AM
When will this much awaited match finally be released?
Should be in early September. I've promised some other ladies their matches will be out in August.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 23, 2013, 11:07:59 PM
There are multiple submissions in the Hollie/Maggy fight.  Hollie is definitely a better cat fighter now than she was a year ago, and Maggy is a special new talent in the world of cat fighting.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: Wifefights49 on July 24, 2013, 04:44:33 PM
Sounds exciting....can we see some preview staredown pics?
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: angrmgmt on July 24, 2013, 08:00:22 PM
For those interested, there is a Hollie vs Maggy photo album in the producers Yahoo group.
Based on the pics, it looks like the all-out battle most are anticipating.
I'm certainly looking forward to purchasing it when it is available.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: walker on July 25, 2013, 03:41:14 AM
Wish September would get here so we could see the fight.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: shana on July 29, 2013, 01:18:18 AM
September is a long wait, and knowing Ecnwc we can expect their release in a half a year, lol.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: ##catfitewatcher314 on July 29, 2013, 04:40:04 AM
shana, Don't say that  lol
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 30, 2013, 10:16:54 PM
ECC's Hollie vs Maggy catfight will be released with no deletions or editing at all except for the insertion multiple times of the score after each submission.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on July 30, 2013, 11:42:35 PM
The ECC catfight is so good we wanted viewers to see every second of the fight. Multiple submissions before one lady won. 
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 04, 2013, 05:20:57 AM
The fact that we released every second of this fight is a tribute to both Hollie and Maggy.  There is no bragging on my part, a producer can only ask them to compete. They are the ones who fought so hard, and their will to win is what made this such a terrific fight.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: DoYouKnowWhoIAm? on August 06, 2013, 04:17:35 AM

You handled your previous two releases in a similar way. Nothing was edited out from in between the submissions in Kristin vs Rhonda and very little in Scarlett vs Wendy.

I am all in favour of this. I love to see the way two women react and interact after one has just forced the other into submission. Females tend to show their emotions more than males, and the kind of emotions they display are always different than you would expect from male fighters in a similar situation, which is fascinating to observe.
A catfight is an event. And, for a fan like me, everything about that event is erotically charged and significant, and I want to see as much of what happened as I possibly can.

In other words, there is no such thing as "useless footage" of a good catfight!



Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 08, 2013, 05:13:23 PM
Anyone who is critical of a catfight video with no deletions is just being negative to the extreme.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: fight europe on August 09, 2013, 03:23:37 PM
I informed ECC that the Hollie vs Maggy Video have a clitch over a week ago. (no Sound during Hollie Interview)
He said he will slove it and now i get one week no answer.
This was my first and last Video that i bought from ECC.
I had a similar Problem with a other Producer, he sloved the Problems immediatly and send me a free other Video.
Very bad Support from ECC.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: fight europe on August 09, 2013, 03:37:37 PM
Why should i pay for a glitched Video?
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 09, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
On Monday of this week my distributor said he would send you the link. I just emailed him again 5 minutes ago to take care of it. 
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 09, 2013, 03:48:01 PM
Quote from: nominal on August 09, 2013, 03:31:45 PM
Quote from: fetishproduction on August 09, 2013, 03:23:37 PM
I informed ECC that the Hollie vs Maggy Video have a clitch over a week ago. (no Sound during Hollie Interview)
He said he will slove it and now i get one week no answer.
This was my first and last Video that i bought from ECC.
I had a similar Problem with a other Producer, he sloved the Problems immediatly and send me a free other Video.
Very bad Support from ECC.

You are negative, to the extreme   ;)
Nominal is Stephen of Grassland. 
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 09, 2013, 04:21:43 PM
For over a year there has been a hate campaign coming from a guy who is a videographer for ECNWC. His main name is Stephen (some may know him as Grassland). I've known Bob of ECNWC for years and doubt seriously if he would condone Stephen's smear campaign. Finally, this morning I wrote Bob about it asking him to tell this guy to stop the dirt. I pointed out that Stephen is an agent of ECNWC, and therefore I thought he should know about the extent of Stephen's obsession.  I will wait to see if Bob responds.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 09, 2013, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: fetishproduction on August 09, 2013, 03:37:37 PM
Why should i pay for a glitched Video?
I emailed you just now the easiest way to get a quick response. You also can verify with him that I instructed him a few days ago and again today to help you with this specific problem. 
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: fight europe on August 09, 2013, 08:33:19 PM
That ist not my Problem, ECC is responsible for correct Videos.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: DoYouKnowWhoIAm? on August 09, 2013, 08:53:17 PM
Quote from: fetishproduction on August 09, 2013, 03:23:37 PM
I informed ECC that the Hollie vs Maggy Video have a clitch over a week ago. (no Sound during Hollie Interview)
He said he will slove it and now i get one week no answer.
This was my first and last Video that i bought from ECC.
I had a similar Problem with a other Producer, he sloved the Problems immediatly and send me a free other Video.
Very bad Support from ECC.

I have bought more than 30 videos from ECC and never had a problem with bad playback. Twice I had technical problems downloading them, and they helped me out pretty quick both times. One of those problems was at my end, but they still sent me a new link so I could download the video without paying for it again.
Give them a chance and I'm sure they will rectify this for you. And don't let it put you off buying from them again. They have some great fights at their site and more good ones coming up soon.

Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 09, 2013, 09:00:31 PM
Quote from: fetishproduction on August 09, 2013, 08:33:19 PM
That ist not my Problem, ECC is responsible for correct Videos.
I asked him to help you, once 4 or 5 days ago, the other time today. He told me he would fix it for you but must have forgotten, so I emailed him again today. The reason I thought you might want to email him as well is to verify what I am telling you is the truth, and to tell him you still want it.   He has never failed in 6 years not helping out.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 10, 2013, 05:51:24 AM
Hollie only talks for 45 seconds in the prefight interview. She says she's glad to be back for her 2nd fight at East Coast Cats. She then says she saw her opponent, and commented that Maggy was about her size. She added that Maggy looked fit, and that she was too, so she thought it would be a good fight. The 45 seconds were the extent of Hollie's prefight interview. So happy that was the only talking by Hollie that fetishprodduction missed. Nevertheless, we will see that he receives another link of the entire video.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: GrasslandProductions on August 11, 2013, 03:15:22 AM
Quote from: East Coast Cats on August 09, 2013, 04:21:43 PM
For over a year there has been a hate campaign coming from a guy who is a videographer for ECNWC. His main name is Stephen (some may know him as Grassland). I've known Bob of ECNWC for years and doubt seriously if he would condone Stephen's smear campaign. Finally, this morning I wrote Bob about it asking him to tell this guy to stop the dirt. I pointed out that Stephen is an agent of ECNWC, and therefore I thought he should know about the extent of Stephen's obsession.  I will wait to see if Bob responds.

Since I was brought up on this thread...

First, Nominal lives in the Southwest. I live in the Mid-Atlantic. I met him at a shoot when his girlfriend at the time fought for Bob.

Anyone here can call Bob to verify these, but be warned, he might hang up the phone. When I first started help Bob, he told me that if I ever spoke with John he would never speak to me again. Needless to say, I don't bring up ECC with Bob. He told me he dislikes John so much that he won't even sell John a DVD, much less give him one. There is a real dislike between the two. I don't know why ECC tries to gloss that over. Call Bob and ask him. Feel free. His number is on his website. He will also back up that my GF, or wife, never worked for him.

Bob is also a friend of mine and he considers me a friend. Bob loses thousands of dollars a year doing this, but it is his love and his passion. It bothers me when people discredit what he tries to do. Not everyone may like his product, which is natural, but trying to paint it in a certain way is wrong.

These are all facts, not smears.

And I would have never brought up anything on an ECC thread if ECC did not bring my name up.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 11, 2013, 04:41:28 AM
Quote from: GrasslandProductions on August 11, 2013, 03:15:22 AM
Quote from: East Coast Cats on August 09, 2013, 04:21:43 PM
For over a year there has been a hate campaign coming from a guy who is a videographer for ECNWC. His main name is Stephen (some may know him as Grassland). I've known Bob of ECNWC for years and doubt seriously if he would condone Stephen's smear campaign. Finally, this morning I wrote Bob about it asking him to tell this guy to stop the dirt. I pointed out that Stephen is an agent of ECNWC, and therefore I thought he should know about the extent of Stephen's obsession.  I will wait to see if Bob responds.

Since I was brought up on this thread...

First, Nominal lives in the Southwest. I live in the Mid-Atlantic. I met him at a shoot when his girlfriend at the time fought for Bob.

Anyone here can call Bob to verify these, but be warned, he might hang up the phone. When I first started help Bob, he told me that if I ever spoke with John he would never speak to me again. Needless to say, I don't bring up ECC with Bob. He told me he dislikes John so much that he won't even sell John a DVD, much less give him one. There is a real dislike between the two. I don't know why ECC tries to gloss that over. Call Bob and ask him. Feel free. His number is on his website. He will also back up that my GF, or wife, never worked for him.

Bob is also a friend of mine and he considers me a friend. Bob loses thousands of dollars a year doing this, but it is his love and his passion. It bothers me when people discredit what he tries to do. Not everyone may like his product, which is natural, but trying to paint it in a certain way is wrong.

These are all facts, not smears.

And I would have never brought up anything on an ECC thread if ECC did not bring my name up.
I like Bob and I like his videos, to say otherwise is a lie. If Bob said don't bring up my name it's  similar to when he told me not to mention Jenn after she left him. I won't elaborate but maybe Bob could fill Stephen in on that. I have invited Bob to two of my shoots, he attended one and said he would again after I moved north and started filming here. . He invited me to two of his shoots, and I attended one. I have introduced Bob to two ladies so they could shoot with him, and one did. Bob and I have traded tewo or three videos, but that was awhile ago. Stephen does his best to say in many ways I don't like Bob, but that is simply a lie. Grassland/Stephen actually is incapable of telling the truth about me. I'm sure he has tried to discredit me with Bob, it's simply how Stephen operates. The reason Stephen hates me is because virtually every lady he filmed in his failed video company left him to work with ECC. Only about one half of them have been seen so far in ECC videos, but there are others who have filmed and their matches will be seen too. They left Stephen simply cause they wanted to. I won't get deep in the dirt as Stephen does with his lies, but there are other reasons they left his company for mine. In the beginning I liked Stephen. He called me perhaps 150 times asking for advice in starting his company. I put in a good word for him with my distributor to get him started and that distributor was his first. I believe Stephen left after one video. I told the distributor I thought he was a nice guy.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: pinner45 on August 11, 2013, 01:14:50 PM
Ditto for this thread. "It is an ill wind that blows nobody good."
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: GrasslandProductions on August 11, 2013, 02:21:44 PM
Quote from: East Coast Cats on August 11, 2013, 04:41:28 AM
Quote from: GrasslandProductions on August 11, 2013, 03:15:22 AM
Quote from: East Coast Cats on August 09, 2013, 04:21:43 PM
For over a year there has been a hate campaign coming from a guy who is a videographer for ECNWC. His main name is Stephen (some may know him as Grassland). I've known Bob of ECNWC for years and doubt seriously if he would condone Stephen's smear campaign. Finally, this morning I wrote Bob about it asking him to tell this guy to stop the dirt. I pointed out that Stephen is an agent of ECNWC, and therefore I thought he should know about the extent of Stephen's obsession.  I will wait to see if Bob responds.

Since I was brought up on this thread...

First, Nominal lives in the Southwest. I live in the Mid-Atlantic. I met him at a shoot when his girlfriend at the time fought for Bob.

Anyone here can call Bob to verify these, but be warned, he might hang up the phone. When I first started help Bob, he told me that if I ever spoke with John he would never speak to me again. Needless to say, I don't bring up ECC with Bob. He told me he dislikes John so much that he won't even sell John a DVD, much less give him one. There is a real dislike between the two. I don't know why ECC tries to gloss that over. Call Bob and ask him. Feel free. His number is on his website. He will also back up that my GF, or wife, never worked for him.

Bob is also a friend of mine and he considers me a friend. Bob loses thousands of dollars a year doing this, but it is his love and his passion. It bothers me when people discredit what he tries to do. Not everyone may like his product, which is natural, but trying to paint it in a certain way is wrong.

These are all facts, not smears.

And I would have never brought up anything on an ECC thread if ECC did not bring my name up.
I like Bob and I like his videos, to say otherwise is a lie. If Bob said don't bring up my name it's  similar to when he told me not to mention Jenn after she left him. I won't elaborate but maybe Bob could fill Stephen in on that. I have invited Bob to two of my shoots, he attended one and said he would again after I moved north and started filming here. . He invited me to two of his shoots, and I attended one. I have introduced Bob to two ladies so they could shoot with him, and one did. Bob and I have traded tewo or three videos, but that was awhile ago. Stephen does his best to say in many ways I don't like Bob, but that is simply a lie. Grassland/Stephen actually is incapable of telling the truth about me. I'm sure he has tried to discredit me with Bob, it's simply how Stephen operates. The reason Stephen hates me is because virtually every lady he filmed in his failed video company left him to work with ECC. Only about one half of them have been seen so far in ECC videos, but there are others who have filmed and their matches will be seen too. They left Stephen simply cause they wanted to. I won't get deep in the dirt as Stephen does with his lies, but there are other reasons they left his company for mine. In the beginning I liked Stephen. He called me perhaps 150 times asking for advice in starting his company. I put in a good word for him with my distributor to get him started and that distributor was his first. I believe Stephen left after one video. I told the distributor I thought he was a nice guy.

This was over a decade ago before the falling out with Bob over models. It's similar to a man saying he gets along great with his ex-wife by pointing all the good times before they split up.

Anyone can call Bob and ask him. But he is not going to be pleased if you ask him about John. Just warning you.

And models follow the money. Capital City will probably film again, but that is up to my other partner. We usually scratch the catfight itch by filming for Bob. Models don't leave companies that give them work. We just stopped filming and giving them work.

CCC and ECNWC had a falling out with ECC over models. Please note that all CCC models had never worked for ECC before they worked for CCC. That cannot be said the other way around. CCC was a very good way for ECC to get good fighters, which we found out was the motivation for ECC's "help" and the fact that John knew we were close to Bob and ECC is very interested in that company's work, but it is difficult for John to find out what's going on because Bob won't talk to him or sell him any DVDs.

John did help me in the start, but we quickly found out what was going on after we released our fourth or fifth video when ECC started trying to film the exact matches we just filmed.

And if fans are tired of this, I am sorry, but just trying to set the record straight.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 11, 2013, 04:29:37 PM
The thought of Stephen setting the record straight is funny since he's incapable of telling the truth. Please note that he mentions Bob and I having trouble over models but won't name names. Please note that ever time he says "ask Bob", he has to warn you that Bob might not talk. Steve says 10 years ago I helped Bob, well Stevie boy I called Bob and offered to connect him with one of the best ECC fighters   2 1/2 years ago. Please note that Steve says money is the reason ladies left him to work with me: Really Steve is that the only reason? Would you like me to be more specific Steve? Keep lying and I will. Steve says I only helped him so I could end up taking the models from him. That's a total lie. First lady I talked to that worked with him, I asked his permission and it was 3 months after his countless phone calls he made  to me. Also, I joined this chat room in 10/11, and found out in 2/11 postings here where the recruiters for ECNWC were going to get Pandora specifically and other ladies from ECC. It's amusing that I had offered to send this lady to Bob a couple months earlier. Apparently Bob doesn't communicate with his recruiters as much as recruiter Steve thinks he does. 2/11 is almost exactly when Steve started his countless calls to me asking my advise but always asking questions about the ladies I hire (their location, pay etc.. This was 3 months before I asked permission to speak with one of the ladies Steve filmed.  So actually the reverse is true about efforts to recruit the ladies. As far as recruiting them , 4 of them contacted me first, not me contacting them.  Steve's spin on things is always the opposite of the truth.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 11, 2013, 04:54:07 PM
I doubt anyone cares about this other than Steve and myself, but his lies need to be addressed. If anyone other than us is slightly interested, simply ask him to name the ladies in question and not just make blanket lies without specific names. Ask him why my efforts to help Bob are ignored by Steve, but he claims Bob hates me, ( btw, I have a friendly email from Bob sent late last year). Frankly, if Bob is hearing Steve's lies about me over and over, he might be inclined to think something is wrong.  The constant liar throws dirt on top of dirt and hopes some may stick.   
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: GrasslandProductions on August 11, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
If anyone wants to start their own company on the East Coast between DC and Boston, this is what you will deal with.

This will go on forever if I keep responding. It never stops.

If fans want to connect with Bob, he is on www.fetlife.com with the handle Bob_at_the_ECNWC.

If you want to chat about what he does or his DVDs, you can reach him there.

Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: shana on August 12, 2013, 04:39:30 PM
What is obvious is that Grassland is out to totally discredit one company and totally glorify the other. It's also obvious that when pressed to respond with specifics or to answer direct questions he goes into the "I'm tired of this debate" mode. Well this debate is boring, but whether in this thread or countless others he's always the attack dog after ECC.  No one is attacking ECNWC, nor should they. If Grassland is an employee of ECNWC he should be called back to the kennel. Can't we just enjoy both companies?   
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: fight europe on August 12, 2013, 05:58:16 PM
12 DAYS since i bought the glitched Video.
Until now i DONT get a fixed version or get my money back.
BIG THANKS TO ECC.  >:(
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: GrasslandProductions on August 12, 2013, 07:55:59 PM
Quote from: shana on August 12, 2013, 04:39:30 PM
What is obvious is that Grassland is out to totally discredit one company and totally glorify the other. It's also obvious that when pressed to respond with specifics or to answer direct questions he goes into the "I'm tired of this debate" mode. Well this debate is boring, but whether in this thread or countless others he's always the attack dog after ECC.  No one is attacking ECNWC, nor should they. If Grassland is an employee of ECNWC he should be called back to the kennel. Can't we just enjoy both companies?   

Shana, right now you are the one attacking.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: East Coast Cats on August 13, 2013, 11:42:32 PM
Hollie and Maggy are both session wrestlers and can be found on wb270.
Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: cffightfan on August 14, 2013, 02:43:00 AM
Quote from: East Coast Cats on August 10, 2013, 05:51:24 AM
Hollie only talks for 45 seconds in the prefight interview. She says she's glad to be back for her 2nd fight at East Coast Cats. She then says she saw her opponent, and commented that Maggy was about her size. She added that Maggy looked fit, and that she was too, so she thought it would be a good fight. The 45 seconds were the extent of Hollie's prefight interview. So happy that was the only talking by Hollie that fetishprodduction missed. Nevertheless, we will see that he receives another link of the entire video.

another thread mentioned the download options, talking about a lower video quality
than hd, sure enough the download is 640x480 at 29fps.  this is an
opportunity to maybe offer more than one size of download.  another video company
on there 1 min trailer is 1280 x720 at 49fps a big difference, but too that
1 min of video is 47.8mb.   

anyway due to the thread a few months back I was expecting hd on download, but
didn't really think about it. so if the video was shot in hd maybe create
a 2nd download link and offer both. it was just an expectation, no where
on the site did I read that the download is hd. would be great to have
a copy of this ass kicking fight  in hd though, if not in download form on dvd media.

I would request a link too on the new video with Hollie's interview audible.

who is up next at ecc? 

Title: Re: Hollie Dunaway vs Maggy
Post by: DoYouKnowWhoIAm? on August 15, 2013, 05:24:43 PM
I just put up a comment about the HD downloads in that other thread.

Just to echo what I said there, filming with an HD camera is a step in the right direction. The picture quality and clarity of the downloads has improved as a result. Lets hope the next step, full HD downloads, will be coming soon.