hi... i'm still pretty much a newbie when it comes to wrestling and was hoping some of you could share any tips and tricks you have regarding holds and wrestling in general... i love wrestling and would love to learn as much as i can :)
i hope we can have a lot of discussions... to get the first one going... what tips do you have to get the most out of a headlock?
Tight pull and proper placement of the arm. If you can, turn the person's head so their ear isn't against your side, but more of their chin. That way, your forearm and bicep are squeezing more of the head instead of just pressing the head against your side. I'm no expert, that's just from my own experience. Your mileage may vary.
A useful resource
http://www.women-wrestling.org/women_wrestling_holds.html
Quote from: cupofjoe on June 25, 2013, 06:39:55 PM
A useful resource
http://www.women-wrestling.org/women_wrestling_holds.html
Nice site. Although I miss Mavrint's wrestling hold gallery.
so you're turning their face away from you? is that it?
Quote from: RedEnforcer on June 25, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
Tight pull and proper placement of the arm. If you can, turn the person's head so their ear isn't against your side, but more of their chin. That way, your forearm and bicep are squeezing more of the head instead of just pressing the head against your side. I'm no expert, that's just from my own experience. Your mileage may vary.
well i don't have the time or money to go to a wrestling school... but of course, no one's trying to hurt each other... unless it's in cyber :)
Quote from: Boeing666 on June 26, 2013, 04:30:56 AM
If you are serious about learning wrestling, go to a wrestling school and get proper training so people don't get hurt.
For me the concept of the head lock it about keeping you opponent in control weather is the basic side necklock and front face lock
its about keeping you opponents in control while leading to your next move, bear in mind the necklock also exposed ur lower body for attack but thats another discussion
Neck-lock is where u wrap ur hand around the head or neck to trap the person and lock on tight , if around the head it allow you to squeeze the head a little and pressure ur opponent but it around the neck it can be likc a choke hold which usually nor allows
hope it helps
Quote from: sararwrestles on June 26, 2013, 07:07:33 AM
so you're turning their face away from you? is that it?
Quote from: RedEnforcer on June 25, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
Tight pull and proper placement of the arm. If you can, turn the person's head so their ear isn't against your side, but more of their chin. That way, your forearm and bicep are squeezing more of the head instead of just pressing the head against your side. I'm no expert, that's just from my own experience. Your mileage may vary.
No, more face into you. Like that image of Carol's up there. Except as a guy, the breast wouldn't be mashing up against her face.
Quote from: Rivers on June 26, 2013, 07:37:44 PM
I normally don't have my boob mashing into the face either.
Always more fun when you get their own boob in their face ;)
Quote from: Rivers on June 26, 2013, 07:37:44 PM
I normally don't have my boob mashing into the face either.
Then why bother? :P
nobody here tries to get a submission with a headlock? i'm guessing that it could be done...
Quote from: sararwrestles on June 26, 2013, 10:41:21 PM
nobody here tries to get a submission with a headlock? i'm guessing that it could be done...
It depends. I usually try to feel out what my opponent's weakness is. Finding that, that's the submission I go for.
Quote from: sararwrestles on June 26, 2013, 10:41:21 PM
nobody here tries to get a submission with a headlock? i'm guessing that it could be done...
It was wrestler Ed "Strangler" Lewis's finisher in later years so yeah it can be...
I've gotten submissions with headlocks... of course I've turned them more into neck cranks when I did them
Quote from: sararwrestles on June 26, 2013, 10:41:21 PM
nobody here tries to get a submission with a headlock? i'm guessing that it could be done...
Quote from: lisakicksyourass on June 27, 2013, 07:04:54 AM
I've gotten submissions with headlocks... of course I've turned them more into neck cranks when I did them
Quote from: sararwrestles on June 26, 2013, 10:41:21 PM
nobody here tries to get a submission with a headlock? i'm guessing that it could be done...
Yeah, it's usually the twisting and cranking that gets the submission.
well this may seem like a dumb question... but how do you do the neck crank?
Quote from: sararwrestles on June 27, 2013, 11:03:34 PM
well this may seem like a dumb question... but how do you do the neck crank?
If you want to look cute: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVEylcfXsPM
If you want to kill someone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwlKecL-Lvg
This is how I've learned to do it... I get the side headlock on and then I walk my feet forward... sinking down to the mat as I do until I'm sitting down and my opponent is basically on their stomach with my arm still locked around their head... It's fairly easy to take them down because they are pulled off balanced and forced to support your bodyweight... once they're down all you have to do is tighten up and lean back... this will crank their neck back... and since your arm is right around their jaw... you can squeeze there too and add all kinds of paralyzing pain to the hold
It's been done to me in real life so I know what I'm talking about... most people would submit :)
that does sound nice and painful ;) i have to try that one...
Quote from: lisakicksyourass on June 28, 2013, 02:01:23 PM
This is how I've learned to do it... I get the side headlock on and then I walk my feet forward... sinking down to the mat as I do until I'm sitting down and my opponent is basically on their stomach with my arm still locked around their head... It's fairly easy to take them down because they are pulled off balanced and forced to support your bodyweight... once they're down all you have to do is tighten up and lean back... this will crank their neck back... and since your arm is right around their jaw... you can squeeze there too and add all kinds of paralyzing pain to the hold
It's been done to me in real life so I know what I'm talking about... most people would submit :)
That's how I was imagining the neck crank. I didn't know there's an MMA move with that name. I know I'd submit irl if someone had me like that. That's why I try not to be in that position.
I like ya topic here Sara. Honestly I don't really use headlocks too much but I think everyone here gave ya a pretty good idea on how to use it. I've heard of that neck crank thingy and I've been shown like a chinlock where its kinda like a sleeper with your elbow around their neck only ya put it around their chin and squeeze and twist. It hurts a lot and can be pretty effective. Hope that helps ya!
coach lauren seconds what ami and lisa have written... oooooohhhhhh... :) maybe maggie'll have that one in store for her ;D
Maggie would probably be the best at giving you expert advice on headlocks....well receiving them anyway. ;)
how is this for a headlock? maybe this is what you were thinking about ami?
Quote from: sararwrestles on July 01, 2013, 06:19:31 PM
how is this for a headlock? maybe this is what you were thinking about ami?
thats a nice way to crank it with ur weight behind it
after she mentioned him i looked him up... he made this wooden head to practice his headlock on... it was made of two wooden halves that were connected with i think railroad springs? and he could squeeze against the railway springs so that the two halves would meet
i can't imagine what that kind of strength felt like... yikes!
Quote from: emmett52 on July 02, 2013, 06:49:29 AM
Wow Nutmeg,impressive that you know about Strangler Lewis. He got that nickname from using the headlock. People were freaking out because they thought he was strangling them. He was the first heel in wrestling. He became Lou Thesz's manager when Thesz was young. Lewis is considered the greatest American wrestler in the first half of the 20th century.I think he was the first 2 time or 3 time world champion. A true legend that should be in the WWE Hall of Fame.
Quote from: Rivers on June 26, 2013, 07:37:44 PM
I normally don't have my boob mashing into the face either.
Almost qualifies as a dq or eye gouging.
I can't believe nobody else has offered....... how about a FREE wrestling clinic??? I am at your service.;)
thanks to everyone who contributed :) so who's got the best headlock around here? ;)
Quote from: sararwrestles on July 01, 2013, 06:19:31 PM
how is this for a headlock? maybe this is what you were thinking about ami?
Yep thats just like what I was thinking of!!! Love it!
using the boobs is more of a humiliation really, I think. trying to break her pride...or anger her into making a dumb move
Quote from: Sierra25 on July 23, 2013, 09:18:52 AM
using the boobs is more of a humiliation really, I think. trying to break her pride...or anger her into making a dumb move
Is it effective in that sense then?
Quote from: RedEnforcer on July 23, 2013, 03:08:33 PM
Quote from: Sierra25 on July 23, 2013, 09:18:52 AM
using the boobs is more of a humiliation really, I think. trying to break her pride...or anger her into making a dumb move
Is it effective in that sense then?
It can be, tying this thread into the one about being pwned ;) Seems to work well on opponents who you're trying to figure out if they're looking to lose. Someone who's going to give you and even match will find a way out.
Either way I don't think anyone will get a win from a headlock, unless your opponent is super subbie.
Quote from: Sierra25 on July 23, 2013, 08:54:27 PM
Quote from: RedEnforcer on July 23, 2013, 03:08:33 PM
Quote from: Sierra25 on July 23, 2013, 09:18:52 AM
using the boobs is more of a humiliation really, I think. trying to break her pride...or anger her into making a dumb move
Is it effective in that sense then?
It can be, tying this thread into the one about being pwned ;) Seems to work well on opponents who you're trying to figure out if they're looking to lose. Someone who's going to give you and even match will find a way out.
Either way I don't think anyone will get a win from a headlock, unless your opponent is super subbie.
True. But those do exist out there. I guess I can see that for straight gals, anything that's possibly sexual like rubbing against your opponent's breasts can be as off putting as something similar in m v m matches. And I can see how that would help you figure out a person's true wants in the match.
Thanks for adding to the discussion. It's good to hear from someone with a similar mindset when it comes to cyber.