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General Category => Catfight Art => Topic started by: tammyfjort on March 22, 2013, 04:22:57 PM

Title: So tired of 3D
Post by: tammyfjort on March 22, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
ok it's not that I hate 3D but did anyone else notice how nowadays you don't see catfight artists who can actually draw, in hand or on their computer? everything now is 3D and most of it really doesn't look very good. mostly it looks like poor character design from some bad videogame out of the 90s. are there any non 3D artists left on this site?
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: DDboxer on March 23, 2013, 04:01:57 PM
if you like japanese style comics, there are plenty of them on sites like this -
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/275245/15041d640c/
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: littleognir on March 24, 2013, 06:09:34 AM
As a professional in traditional and digital arts, here's my two cents.

The vast majority of the catfight art I have posted over the years has been digital for one major reason: time. All the catfight art I do is for free and on what little free time I have from my "day job". I just don't have the time to pencil, ink, color, scan, edit this kind of stuff. In Poser I have a number of preset figures, costumes, props, scenes and lighting set-ups. A few quick clicks, a little tweaking here and there and I send it to render. I can go back to work while that's running in the background. Make a couple post-render tweaks and I have a fully finished rendering. All in all it is *much* less labor.

There are several VERY good digital artists that post here and other places. Sadly they are outnumbered by not so good. The 3D programs are deceptively simple. Easy to learn, but takes a little doing to master. But then again, so is drawing. To be honest, I've seen just as much lower-than-average drawings as I have seen renders. It really comes down to the skills of the artist.

If people want high-quality artwork, then more support needs to be made either financially, or something else. Other than that, you'll just have to sort through all the crap to find the real gems and enjoy the treasure you just found. 
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: gmenn on March 24, 2013, 11:31:02 AM
This one is a traditional catfight artist, and the preferred of mine. His name is Raz. He is Italian.

Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: fireclaws on March 24, 2013, 10:21:48 PM
I agree with you : 3D sounded like a good idea, but so-so 3D artworks are a lot worse than so-so 2D drawings.

Maybe I'm not the the 21st century Leonardo, but I do bring my humble contribution at www.fireclaws.net/index_board.htm (http://www.fireclaws.net/index_board.htm) to the catfight community, and I do it the old fashion way : first with (2D !) paper and pencil, then coloring and shading with computer. Sometimes, I even feel that I'm improving !
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: JT Edson on March 25, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
gmenn,

Thanks for sharing the great art work.
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: tammyfjort on March 25, 2013, 01:43:20 PM
hey thanks for your replies and the links. keep em coming :-)
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: lumberjack66 on March 25, 2013, 05:10:01 PM
I definitely understand the attraction to real "art".  I would say some of the 3D stuff, the really good stuff, reaches the level of art.  At the same time, you have to have skill to do real art.  Not that 3D doesn't take skill, but I think for people like myself with no artistic skill it gives a huge hand up.  I think I do a good job at story telling.  If I were to draw it, you would laugh me out of the room.  But if I did it 3D, I could probably do a credible job and at least make it entertaining.  I am sure for many real artists it is no faster to do it 3D and they probably do a better job free hand, but for those of us who are left, 3D software would be the only option.
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: gene smith on March 25, 2013, 05:21:56 PM
have you tried www.fightantasies.com ???most of the art there is tradional art
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: tammyfjort on March 26, 2013, 01:58:49 PM
Quote from: gene smith on March 25, 2013, 05:21:56 PM
have you tried www.fightantasies.com ???most of the art there is tradional art

booooo. she asks the artists here to link to their work and you try to lure her on a pay site. bad form. boooooo
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: Depicticus on March 26, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
Below is a link to (and preview frame of) what I consider to be some of my better recent work. I'm in the same boat as some others here as far as choice of tool/approach, in that I can't draw by hand to save my life, but can manipulate 3D computer software skillfully enough to produce results that I consider to be acceptable.

http://depicticus.x10.bz/RVT/RVT1.html (http://depicticus.x10.bz/RVT/RVT1.html)

(https://s4ck.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdepicticus.x10.bz%2FRVT%2FTVR04s01.jpg&hash=aaee7d0310e988b8ce7de5a18b775628b4edea6d)

The 3D software angle also has the advantage of allowing one to move from one action frame to the next more easily and quickly, in that you just have to reposition the characters and already have the background setting present, instead of having to start from scratch and recreate everything for each new shot.

Cheers,
-Depicticus
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: gene smith on March 27, 2013, 10:37:56 AM
Quote from: tammyfjort on March 26, 2013, 01:58:49 PM
Quote from: gene smith on March 25, 2013, 05:21:56 PM
have you tried www.fightantasies.com ???most of the art there is tradional art

booooo. she asks the artists here to link to their work and you try to lure her on a pay site. bad form. boooooo
i'm a mod on that sie and the administrator asked me to spread the word about it
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: JT Edson on March 27, 2013, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: Depicticus on March 26, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
Below is a link to (and preview frame of) what I consider to be some of my better recent work. I'm in the same boat as some others here as far as choice of tool/approach, in that I can't draw by hand to save my life, but can manipulate 3D computer software skillfully enough to produce results that I consider to be acceptable.

http://depicticus.x10.bz/RVT/RVT1.html (http://depicticus.x10.bz/RVT/RVT1.html)

(https://s4ck.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdepicticus.x10.bz%2FRVT%2FTVR04s01.jpg&hash=aaee7d0310e988b8ce7de5a18b775628b4edea6d)

The 3D software angle also has the advantage of allowing one to move from one action frame to the next more easily and quickly, in that you just have to reposition the characters and already have the background setting present, instead of having to start from scratch and recreate everything for each new shot.

Cheers,
-Depicticus

Nice art. great back and forht action.
Title: Re: So tired of 3D
Post by: ProApartment3D on March 27, 2013, 05:19:46 PM
I've been working with 3D graphics for about 5 years now and can speak from experience that a good representation without looking cartoonish is not easily achieved. Practice and dedication makes perfect they say, and I always strive to keep improving my work both through dedication and with advances in technology. Check out my work if you wish. www.pro3Dapartmentwrestling.com  . Cheers!
(https://s4ck.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F105.imagebam.com%2Fdownload%2FuanVDybUPeoHRkH8IgYXEQ%2F24577%2F245766652%2FTagteam.jpg&hash=494a827b851fe14aabc24c5574e6b608c98838dc)