I realize that perspectives on tattoos are likely to differ with the generations, but I'm curious as to just how much. Personally, I have never found tattoos to be attractive. And, as someone who grew up in the post-WWII era where the only people who sported tattoos were men who had fought as Marines or Sailors in the South Pacific, I still equate tattoos with them.
Nowadays, it's very difficult to find any person under the age of 35 who doesn't have some ink on their bods. I look at athletes whose bodies are covered with tats, and wonder (and have asked many) why would they want to mar such great looking bodies, such works of art with distracting and permanent ink (?).
I feel the same way with women in fight vids. I can overlook some inkwork, but other, overwhelming tattooing is a turn off to me. I would rather look at the great work of nature, as-is, that be distracted by an artist's drawings all over a woman's arm, back, legs, etc.
That's just my two cents. What's yours?
Unnecessary at best, hideous at worst, is my opinion. Given their popularity, many must disagree; would love to hear why.
I've been in a family where all my brothers are tattooed and my cousins aren't and both in strong 'tattoo friendly " peer groups. At least all of my brothers means something to them and are expressions of politics and race. For my cousins the lack of tattoos make them far more badass than anyone else since tats in their culture are prison related. A clear body says "Never been, never will. Forget the cuffs, you need a bag to take me in"
For me I can at least respect my brothers ones since they are unique and actually mean something. And not in the sense that 'its something I like". I like chocolate cake but I don't feel the need to put a picture of Devil's Food across my arm. Same thing with puting someone's name on your body so you "can remember them" I'm sure your dad would be honored that his name is written down on your body the way people write down the grocery list on their hands. If the memory can't exist in your mind it isn't worth having and putting memorials on your body feels like..showing off. Like "wow look at my ability to mourn...I wrote down a person's name. Truly I am king or queen of Pain"
But way too many tats these days are just fashion accessories. Where once soccer moms discussed what trendy dress to buy they now discuss tattoos. Which by the way kind of kills the whole "tattoos are for wild expressive people" cliche all the non-conformists who all look alike try to preach.
And what's the new uniform for "wimp who is scared he's going to get beat on in a bar? " MMA shirt..check shaved head...check..tattoos...check..Let's hope they think you're bad ass and not the punk you are... For me I associate tattoos on men as a sign of being a trendy sheep, same with women mixed with "tramp stamp"
My friends and I no tattoos (and all aged 30-32) and zero interest in getting one or even dating someone with one. And feel our horror when we hit the old folks home to see how bad some of these tats look on a 65 year old person with stretch marks..stomach ones with the letters now miles apart from each other thanks to a beer gut..I'd advise investing in laser removal business as the next booming industry.
As Megadeth's Dave Mustaine said when asked why he has no tattoos (rare thing for metal guys)" Honey, you don't put a bumper sticker on a Cadillac."
Put me FIRMLY in the 'don't like them' camp.
To be honest, they are a huge turn off for me.
They take away the 'ladylike' image of the women/girls involved....and both females being feminine, to me, is a huge plus when involved in a female v female confrontation.
I know it is the 'modern' way......but I am from the older generation....and I like my ladies to be just that.
If we are voting, check the ' NO ' box for me as well. I am not a fan of tattoos, nipple rings, nipple spikes, belly button hardware or any other hardware. Quite frankly, they give me the willies. Particularly nipple rings and spikes. I have this mental picture of these things getting caught up in something and the nipple being ripped right off in an instant. Alot of women have them, though, so they must think they are a cool accessory but obviously they didn't ask any of us for our opinion.
don't like at all.
I know many people who love them and I can't tell them differently cuz to each their own and I know a lot of uber cool ladies who are covered in them, but as far as what I like as far as what makes a girl attractive to me, no way, I just think they're kinda trashy looking. I prefer the beauty of the female form to stand on it's own.
I gotta go with the no crowd too. I can't think of anything I had 20 years ago that I would want to wear now. Why would I put something on my body forever? I have always joked that our son (22) will never find a woman with real tits and no tats.
I think I'll let internet celebrities Church and Grif weigh in on the issue: http://redvsblue.com/archive/?id=110
Done right, a single tattoo or even a whole bunch of 'em can accentuate a woman's body beautifully. Done wrong, well...
http://ugliesttattoos.failblog.org/ *cues dramatic music* http://www.instantsfun.es/drama
I have several (many?) tatts and I'm proud of each and every one of them. Each one has special meaning to me. Some of my friends have ink, some don't. You may like my ink, you may not. If you don't you probably won't like ME either in which case I don't really give a pile of brown smelly stuff.
I can cover my tatts for business purposes when necessary and they will look as good in 20 years as they do now. If you don't like them, though. I do like them and it's MY body.
Wow... a whole lot of haters out there... but that's cool. Everyone on this planet is entitled to their opinions, it's when people start shoving their opinions down other peoples throats that things start getting all Nazi
Personally, I've been insulted and verbally molested over my choice for a number of years now but I don't really give a damn, to me somebody insulting me because of my tattoo's is just as low as somebody insulting me over my choice to be Bi sexual, it's at best moronic and at worst ignorant and hateful. At the end of the day it's MY choice.
I didn't do it to look cool
I didn't do it to rebel against society
I didn't do it to fit in with the hardcore crowd
I didn't do it to prove a point
I did it for me. Pure and simple. I happen to love my work. I view them each as a piece of art and admire each artist who's left their mark on me. I didn't design a single one, let the artist design a piece and if I loved it I went from there. I love the flawless flourishes as much as I love the flaws, it all adds to the character and the originality of a piece. And believe it or not, I'm not a moron. I KNOW the art will depreciate as my body does, I'm just not the kind of girl who gives a crap. If somebody would chose to like me solely on my appearance then quite frankly, I don't want to know that person.
I consider myself an artist and I view my work as such, but if you don't like how my tattoo's make me look, that's cool! It really is! Just don't be a dick about it. When I see someone and their wearing a dress that I don't like, I don't go "Hi Sarah! That dress is disgusting!" no... that's rude and would hurt their feelings. And hey! Who am I to judge! One girls elixir is another girls poison.
And as for the comment about remembrance of someone who's passed... Don't you ever fucking judge how I respect and honour a loved one you conceited fucking cxnt! I'm not saying LOOK EVERYONE!!! MY BEST FRIENDS DIED!!! LOK AT ME!!!! It was a deeply personal choice that was made by me. I didn't need a tattoo to remember a friend, I chose to do it. If you don't understand it, don't you dare fucking judge it.
There are cultures out there who's tattoo's date back generations and tell a tale of their bloodline back to the beginning. Some even cover their whole body and face. Now that might not be my kind of thing, but I'm sure as hell not going to judge them for it! If anything I respect and admire the strength of their convictions, different though they maybe from my own.
So please everyone... if you don't like tattoo's that's cool, just don't hate on them, you could really hurt peoples feelings. I'm sure 99% of the planet would judge us for sharing this little fetish that brought us all here... but because they disagree with us, doesn't make us bad people, right? Spread the love folks, spread the love.
x G x
I really admire that post FF, you show that Tattoo's are not your thing, but you also show an acceptance of others despite the difference of their ways. If everyone was as tolerant and broad-minded as you, the world would be a much better place :)
x G x
The question is: Do you like tattoos?
In my case, the answer is no. I find them very unattractive and in some cases, they can even be a little repulsive.
However, other people like them and so if they want them, then you go for it. It's just not for me.
I don't even know where to begin on this subject. When I joined here, it seemed like a cool place to indulge my fetish. However, now it seems as if my perception may be wrong.
In an arena such as this, one would think the term RESPECT would be at the forefront. We all have our own personal reasons for being here, and it certainly should matter not whether one is straight, gay, bi, tg,ts,cd, etc. The common bound is that we are here because we LIKE it, it being catfights. We each get to sit behind out computers, type away, and feed our own beasts so to speak. Hating on someone for their appearance has no place in the world, especially in a fetish venue.
NO ONE here has the right to judge ANYONE for ANY personal choice whatsoever on any front. As Gemma stated, 99% of the planet probably would judge us for sharing this little fetish. They most likely would cast a scorn eye towards us. Why do many people here use fake pics and screen names, instead of one's own real pic and legal name?? Most likely to avoid the judgmental nature of society, and we should all be able to relate to that.
For the record, I have no tattoos, only because I have a portrait I want done, and I have yet to find an artist who, in my opinion, would be able to accurately re-create the photo. Maybe I have learned something here tonight - maybe I need to learn to accept the flaws and the flourishes of the final product. While I do not have any ink, and I have no been subjected to any verbal assaults, I can empathize with Gemma and others who are ostracized because of their tattoos. You see, I have facial scars, most of which are a result of an industrial accident. I don't have to deal with the verbal comments, I deal with the turning away of heads, the covering of children's mouths, and the admonishment from parents not to stare or point. I totally understand the point of view from our lovely ink laded ladies in terms of dealing with the choices they made.
We should be united here in this forum; instead wisps of scorn and judgment are now seep forth. People who live in glass houses should most definitely not cast the first stone. It is only due to their classy nature that proud tattooed ladies such as Desert Rat Paula and Gemma have not tossed the second stone.
Who is judging?
The question was who likes tattoos?
It seems to me that most people that don't, have been honest and said that they don't find them a turn on.
Each to their own.
As I have had said, I don't like them.
I find them unfeminine.
I most certainly DID NOT say that I hated the person that likes tattoos.
I would just find them less sexy.
Hate doesn't enter into the equation.
Face it. When someone gets a tattoo in a location where it is visible, that person is making a public statement. I find it interesting that anyone who is in favor of such statements could be offended by someone else stating that they did not find the statement (tattoo) appealing. Some people like tattoos, some don't. None of those who said they found them unfeminine or unappealing said anything derogatory about those who like them. Matter of fact, they went out of their way to say that their preference was a "personal choice" similar to the person getting a tattoo. Accept the original question for what it was - an inquiry as to preferences. Then accept the answers as being the expression of preferences. No one attacked anyone unless you count the Nazi reference.
Some posters are confusing the issue here.
The mood and tone of all discussions on this board is mostly supportive. People are still entitled to their own preferences, however. Just because you do not personally like something does not make you judgemental or a 'hater'. It just makes you a person with your own tastes, to which you are entitled. You are not right or wrong about your tastes. They are simply yours, nothing more or less.
I think there are some people who have gone way overboard in their responses to people who have expressed a dislike of tattoos. It's a personal choice, nothing more or less. In my initial response, I was very clear in expressing that.
If someone had posted a question about Key Lime Pie and some people had responded by saying that they don't like it, would we have had quite such an extreme response?
I personally don't find them attractive at all but I have noticed that we're seeing more and more of them,
my god the women they feature in fighting style are all about the excessive ink these days.
a beautiful person is a beautiful person regardless of the outside trappings.
I can totally understand and appreciate using the body as a canvas, seen some absolutely beautiful work.
not for me personally though, and that"s no biggie.
if nothing else I have a terrible dislike of needles.
Are tattoos intimidating to an opponent?
That's an interesting point Johnmoog, I can't really comment on how it intimidates opponents as I've only wrestled GF's & BF's but as a whole it does intimidate some people, sure. Men are far more approachable and don't really get effected (let's be honest, not many men get intimidated by a 5'3" girl lol) but some women are for sure intimidated if it's something they're not used to in every their day culture. I could go out drinking in a rock or metal club and pull easily, where as if I go to a regular club the women are a bit more timid and shy until they get to know me.
And I feel I must apologise, I never meant to lay a guilt trip or attack anyone earlier, of course you're entitled to your opinions! I really am not offended if you find tattoo's unattractive, it's your right to have your own personal beliefs and it's the differences in society are what makes it interesting! If everyone loved tattoo's or if everyone hated them, the world would be a boring place. What set me off was the ignorant and abusive manner in which one poster discredited and insulted a culture she knew little about, in particular the line about remembering the dead, that just flat out pissed me off. Sure some tattoo's are done out of stupidity and drunkenness, but most are deeply personal experiences or expressions.
And I surely didn't mean to call anyone a Nazi, what I was doing was drawing a comparison to the dangers of posting opinions that could offend. All I meant was, sure, post your view point but don't bludgeon your opinions into others faces, there are people on the other end of the screen with feelings after all.
So in closing, if I offended you with my comment then I apologise, you really are entitled to your opinion and whether you love them or hate them, I'll still admire you (unless you're a dick about it lol)
x G x
I'm 5'1", even if I was covered in tattoos, the only way I could ever scare or intimidate anyone is if I was carrying a tazer 'n a chainsaw! Just sayin'! I have two tatts, both visible 'n both I'm very very proud of. One is in honor of my Dad, who died when I was 13. The other is in honor of the Sioux blood I carry proudly in me. They're a daily reminder of who I am 'n where I came from. My tatts, I believe, are in no way disrespecting the dead, my Dad is always with me every single minute of every single day in my heart 'n memory 'n now also on my skin. It's really all about personal freedom of choice 'n expression. It was my personal choice to get inked, just like it's someone else's personal choice if they don't. I respect your choices, please respect mine too.
hugggzzzzz! :) 8) :-*
~LKB~
(I just read a few of the earlier comments after I posted this....My Dad was an individual, he never believed in going along with the pack, to conform to a certain code just because that's what's expected. My Mom is the same way. My name is Laurel, my parents named me after the Mountain Laurel flower. My middle name is Kawehilani, it's Hawaiian. Before you ask, no, I'm not Hawaiian. Not even a lil bit. Kawehilani, in Hawaiian, means 'the morning mist from heaven'. I'm proud of my name. I'm also the proud daughter of a non-conforming INDIVIDUAL who I loved with all my heart 'n will love forever. I agree with Gemma. I wear my tatt in my Dad's memory with pride 'n love for him, not so peeps can LOOK AT ME, FEEL SORRY FOR ME! My tatt. My choice. My reasons.)
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RUN BUNK RUN!!!!!!!!! QUICKLY ; ZIG-ZAG ; KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN ; FIND COVER ; I FEAR FOR YOUR WELL-BEING.
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I can see i have missed a great discussion here! Comes from not stalking the bunk I guess!
Now back to topic, tattoos are for life not just for Christmas! Ok I can here the shouts and cries they can be removed... no they cant not safely and entirely without scar, a lot of money and without putting yet more poison into the body.
Our bodies are sacred and something to be treasured no matter what their shape or size....... learn to love them and be able to look in the mirror daily and see something your proud of and not something you want to change and damage.
There are some really good temporary tattoos on the market which can be got rid of........... I know, I let someone put a temporary tattoo on the back of my hand one day and I had a real hard time getting it off!
Thats not saying I dont luv all you guys and gals that have tattoos just saying careful how you go..... we change as we get older and what we love as a youngster we can hate in middle age
Brit
Quote from: bunk on April 11, 2011, 04:08:26 AM
3 situations guaranteed to diminish the attractiveness and apparent intelligence of any woman, from the uber-hot Goddesses of Foxy Combat to the fat, brutal English beasts to the Tenderloin denizens of Ultimate Surrender:
1) Getting a tattoo
2) Smoking a cigarette
3) Driving a car
Think about it: have you ever seen a Playboy, Penthouse or even Hustler pictorial with a model doing any of these things? Minds as great as Hefner, Guccione and Flynt are in agreement,and cannot be wrong.
Even those infamous Senoras and Senoritas performing unspeakable acts with a burro look more attractive, and intelligent, when doing so than when tattooing, driving or smoking.
There you have it.
Excuse Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All women drive nowadays at least any woman with an ounce of independence and as for smoking well we all have our vices women as well as men... now a tatoo is a different ball game entirely a man covered in tatoos is te most off putting thing ever.
Added to the above a man sitting at a bar with a pint in his hand spoutin off jokes about the welsh goes little to themale appeal.
Brit
considering I've been known to enjoy a Parliament from time to twenty, I have zero problems with a girl smoking a cig.
as for driving,well, I'd rather have my lady paying attention to where the hell she's going than diddling her twiddle.
I have one tattoo that most people will never see unless it's summer time and I'm in a bikini. If you like it - great. If you don't like it - who cares? I happen to love it.
Quote from: Gail Fights on April 17, 2011, 08:53:20 AM
I have one tattoo that most people will never see unless it's summer time and I'm in a bikini. If you like it - great. If you don't like it - who cares? I happen to love it.
I saw it on one of your profile pics and I like it. Speed
Great topic Bear. It's funny that the women with tattoos totally missed the original topic. Bear said he doesn't like women in tattoos in his catfight videos. What does that have to do with all these women blathering about why and how they got tattoos? Who cares?
I don't like to see women in tattoos for the same reason ... in "Catfight Videos". Get it tattoo women? It has nothing to do with real life. Everything to do with fantasy. Bear ... and myself ... don't want to see tattooed women in our videos and won't buy them... not matter how much some women love their tattoos .... sorry ... not buying. Get it Tattoo women?
I don't care if you wear a tattoo or 100 tattoos. That's your deal. The original topic was about us MEN not caring for WOMEN in OUR catfight videos with tattoos? Get it?
So blither on about how it's prejudices or whatever ... me and probably Bear won't but a catfight video with women with tattoos.
So you women with tattoos... it has nothing to do with you... its about catfight videos .... none of will hate you or look funny at you or insult you. It's cool. It's your thing. Just don't expect some men to buy your product if that is your deal.
End Rant
Peace Rik
I'd like to thank everyone who took time to add a comment and a perspective to this query. Rik above is partially right. I did bring up the topic in order to express my personal feelings regarding tatoos, but I was also interested in hearing about motives and others' feelings regarding them as well. I wouldn't say that I'd never purchase a vid that features combatants with tats, but it would have to be a vid that I would just have to have in order to overlook that which tends to turn me off. And again, that's ME and I'm not being judgmental, just honest. That wraps it up.
Thanks again, everyone.
It looks like this has been a great discussion and can't add anything else to it but to say i have never had a tattoo never had a desire for one and do not think they are attractive on women. Just my opinion
I've thought about getting one, but my fear of needles stops me. I guess to me it depends on the personality of the person. I like Gail's since the little devil just kinda fits what I've learned about her from this site. Some folks just look scary with them (thinking Luna Vachon and Bull Nakano) and others it just looks normal. I dunno. I guess it just depends on the person. Usually if the personality is ugly, it makes the tattoos ugly.
Tattoos - I definately HATE Tattoos on a Woman , I can live now with the small Heart or Rose on the anlke & maybe the " Tramp Stamp " on the lower Back , but Tattoos are 110% a HUGE Turnoff & Yeah , sometimes you just want to ask the Lady " WHY ? " wHY DID YOU DO THAT TO YOURSELF ? . Look at Model , Megan Daniels , Megan is Beautiful , has a Hot Bod , but her Full Right Arm Tattoo is HIDEOUS & if I needed Models for a Bikini shoot , she Need not apply . Iv'e seen plenty of Tattoos that make me say " Wow , what Beautiful Art , but somehow it just does not belong on a person . Tattoos don't make People Bad People now , I have many friends with Tattoos , it is just not a wise decision , especially a Tattoo that why represents something now , 2 yrs from now , the person will almost want to chop off that body part to be rid of it . People getting Tattoos to commemerate Departed Loves ones I'm A Ok with , but Ladies should get them in an out of the way place . Also anybody elese find it a Huge Turnoff when a Woman has one right on her Breast , Icky Gooey . 1 more topic which should be in a different forum but i think I can say here , Pirecings / Body Piercings . 1 to 2 in each ear , PERFECT . Eyelid Piercings make me want to cringe & pull them out , Nose rings the same , Nose Studs , HEY , YOU GOT A HUGE BOOGER ON YOUR NOSE , GET IT OFF , also Tongue & lip piercings , from the 80'2 " Gag me with a Spoon " those are Horrible also . 1 last rant , Paris Kennedy , before her Arm Tattoos , a sweet Sexy Girl who was perfect to be used as a Sweet Jobbber in Custom Matches , now , Heel all the way
Quote from: LarryZonker on February 26, 2011, 10:31:21 AM
Put me FIRMLY in the 'don't like them' camp.
To be honest, they are a huge turn off for me.
They take away the 'ladylike' image of the women/girls involved....and both females being feminine, to me, is a huge plus when involved in a female v female confrontation.
I know it is the 'modern' way......but I am from the older generation....and I like my ladies to be just that.
Same here, even the small, more discreet ones tend to make me wince just looking at them, but the larger ones, like on the back, are a major turn-off for me and I've passed buying some catfight DVD's because some of the combatants had those.
Calm down...
I don't think anyone here is implying that you or anyone else should not get a tattoo, or that having on makes you "this" or "that: ect...
We're just commenting on how we like to see them, or not, on someone... the same way that you, or another woman, might spot a guy in a bar and say/think "Oh, he'd look even better with just a goatee instaed of a full beardt the beard (ect)"... do that mean that the guy should check with you first, before shaving ? ;)
Quote from: anklebiter on August 04, 2011, 07:50:06 AM
As for me calming down, God makes me bleed for four days each month to pay for a sin I didn't commit (any Biblical scholars in here? lol), so I'll rant and vent whenever I want!
O.K., that says it all, case closed...
P.S.: By that reckoning, if god gives, say, cancer to someone, that entitles that person to beat up people or shot them I guess... sheesh...
Well before this evolves into people with tattoos yelling "Freedom!" remember this: You have the freedom to get one and the rest of the world has the freedom to have an opinion on it. Freedom swings both ways kids.
If you can't handle the fact that some people don't like your expression (be it tattoos, politics, clothing, hair color, piercings or whatever) and may express it strongly at you, then you lack the conviction in that expression. Simply put if you require everyone love it, then you aren't making an artistic expression, you are seeking approval or trying to fit in.
Quote from: Queen Of Mean on August 04, 2011, 02:14:15 PM
Quote from: nutmeg78 on August 04, 2011, 10:26:59 AM
Well before this evolves into people with tattoos yelling "Freedom!" remember this: You have the freedom to get one and the rest of the world has the freedom to have an opinion on it. Freedom swings both ways kids.
If you can't handle the fact that some people don't like your expression (be it tattoos, politics, clothing, hair color, piercings or whatever) and may express it strongly at you, then you lack the conviction in that expression. Simply put if you require everyone love it, then you aren't making an artistic expression, you are seeking approval or trying to fit in.
There is a big difference between freedom of choice and freedom of expression, I expressed myself through my art, I chose willingly and freely and without any form of peer pressure to undergo it and to live with the consequence's thus for someone to say that it is unsightly or should be in a non visible place is bull.
Have a tattoo done then say about it, if you don't like it remember one thing a tattoo takes time to ink it but a lot longer to have removed and as a rule of thumb it's 10 times the cost to have it removed as to have it inked.
... bull ? ... why ?
What if someone wants to "express him/herself", say by walking around covered with fecies (or something less extreme), it would still then be "wrong" to voice negative opinions.
People can comment negatively about a movie, a song or a painting, but not about a tattoo ?
You said it yourself, you (or others) CHOSE to have a tattoo and "to live with the consequence's", well, some people saying they don't like the sight of those (or piercings, or anything else) are part of those consequences.
If not, when someone tells you "Wow, cool tattoo" ect, is it also "bull", or only when the comments are negative ?
And all that about it being harder and more expensive to get rid of one, than it is to get one... tough luck, no one forces anyone to get a tatoo in the first place, nor do they force anyone to remove it.
Someone here said that one's man tatto, is another's work of art, well... in that case, one's work of art, can be another's reson for wincing when looking at it.
Freedom of expression works both ways, if one chooses to express one's self by one manner or another, then they must also accept that people express themselves about it (within reason)... you can't just say "Hey, look at this ! ... and then say but don't say anything about it... unless it's a compliment.
I see this argument has raged on a little since I last looked.
thing is... this whole deal with the freedom to express your opinions is kinda flawed really. It all comes down to manners. You might think you're right to say
"I hate tattoo's on women! It makes them look ugly and disgusting!"
But the thing is... on the other end of your screen is a real woman with real feelings. Just because someone has an opinion doesn't mean that person should brandish it around with no care or feeling for those around.
What if you don't like black people? Do you have the right to go around screaming about it? Well if you try that near me I'll break your fucking neck! So here's the deal... before you post, take some consideration for others, it's really not that hard.
Peace people
x G x
People have their own body to do what they want with. If they want to have piercings, let them, if they want tattoos let them. I have a natural fear of needles stemming from an accident which caused a 3 inch screw to go through my finger and out the the other, and yes, I had to reverse the drill in order to get it back out but missed the bone. In today's times I think there are more important issues to get anxious about, like how about them Mets? I heard they where a baseball team.