Pretty much every Gumroad site I follow (and I follow quite a few) including SUITFIGHTS has been scrubbed! Download what you can ASAP!!!!
What a load of crap, This is why I have all my videos saved and backed up.
We got so many god damn problems in this country and this is what they waste time on purging. Guess this is why C4S is located in Cyprus somewhere and I get charged an international transaction fee when buying a video.
The crazy part is this purge has all happened within a 2 week period. Those SOBs have been busy >:(
I was told by Sahil (the CEO) months ago that purchases SHOULD remain accessible in your Library, but yeah, I'd download them all just to be safe.
I opened a LoyalFans months ago in case this actually happened. There's nothing on it currently, but you'll be able to buy new releases on there going forward (no subscription needed) as well as on C4S. I'm still deciding on whether to offer a subscription option as well. The question is whether I will be able to provide enough content to justify it.
It's just a bump in the road, guys. LoyalFans has me kind of excited, actually. It was founded by the original owners of Clips4Sale, and its user-interface is like a mix of OF and YouTube. VERY intuitive.
Well, dang. Thanks for the heads up. I had built up quite the collection on Gumroad! Gotta check my library and downloads, but I think I'm all set. It was really great having that able to stream basically flawlessly for me in high quality when I wasn't at home on the app.
Happy to hear that this isn't seeming like a total loss and there's some legit excitement for LoyalFans and the next chapter.
Quick question about LoyalFans as I've never used it - are there file size limits? Also, is it able to have content that had to be cut from Clips4sale in the past? For instance, the "Directors" cut of some fights were only able to exist on Gumroad recently. I've also been "spoiled" by 4K catfights and oil wrestling and it would be tough to go back!
Quote from: Keith Stat on June 27, 2024, 04:48:49 AM
Quick question about LoyalFans as I've never used it - are there file size limits? Also, is it able to have content that had to be cut from Clips4sale in the past? For instance, the "Directors" cut of some fights were only able to exist on Gumroad recently. I've also been "spoiled" by 4K catfights and oil wrestling and it would be tough to go back!
File sizes are listed to 6GB, so 4K releases are likely out (unless they're very short).
I'm not sure if there are any restrictions similar to Clips4Sale.
"Ultimate Editions" are not possible via LF. You can only upload the video file by itself. No extras.
I'm considering making extras (pics, BTS, posters, etc.) available to subscribers for a low monthly fee, with discounts for purchases to offset the sub cost.
Not gonna lie; I'm gonna miss Gumroad. Up until pre-orders were discontinued it was damn near perfect for small-time producers.
Quote from: SuiteFights on June 28, 2024, 03:53:14 AM
Quote from: Keith Stat on June 27, 2024, 04:48:49 AM
Quick question about LoyalFans as I've never used it - are there file size limits? Also, is it able to have content that had to be cut from Clips4sale in the past? For instance, the "Directors" cut of some fights were only able to exist on Gumroad recently. I've also been "spoiled" by 4K catfights and oil wrestling and it would be tough to go back!
File sizes are listed to 6GB, so 4K releases are likely out (unless they're very short).
I'm not sure if there are any restrictions similar to Clips4Sale.
"Ultimate Editions" are not possible via LF. You can only upload the video file by itself. No extras.
I'm considering making extras (pics, BTS, posters, etc.) available to subscribers for a low monthly fee, with discounts for purchases to offset the sub cost.
Not gonna lie; I'm gonna miss Gumroad. Up until pre-orders were discontinued it was damn near perfect for small-time producers.
I would totally subscribe if it had extras or content like interviews with the girls...And not like the ones before matches, but about them in general. What made them try oil wrestling/catfighting, what they do to stay in shape, do they model or have a regular job. Maybe couple it with a small photo shoot or something. To me, that would justify it in edition to the releases.
Quote from: SuiteFights on June 28, 2024, 03:53:14 AM
Quote from: Keith Stat on June 27, 2024, 04:48:49 AM
Quick question about LoyalFans as I've never used it - are there file size limits? Also, is it able to have content that had to be cut from Clips4sale in the past? For instance, the "Directors" cut of some fights were only able to exist on Gumroad recently. I've also been "spoiled" by 4K catfights and oil wrestling and it would be tough to go back!
File sizes are listed to 6GB, so 4K releases are likely out (unless they're very short).
I'm not sure if there are any restrictions similar to Clips4Sale.
"Ultimate Editions" are not possible via LF. You can only upload the video file by itself. No extras.
I'm considering making extras (pics, BTS, posters, etc.) available to subscribers for a low monthly fee, with discounts for purchases to offset the sub cost.
Not gonna lie; I'm gonna miss Gumroad. Up until pre-orders were discontinued it was damn near perfect for small-time producers.
This platform is another option for you https://mymember.site/?ref=rfSaiHb (https://mymember.site/?ref=rfSaiHb) I recently met the CEO and CMO and they have some exciting plans and actually give a shit about their creators unlike a lot of the platforms. You can basically have your own branded website on your own URL with direct sales, Fan Club or a subscription option. I'm uploading my content to them and also Loyal Fans. LF has some great features too, and I really like both platforms.
The only reason I even know about the odd Gumroad platform is b/c of companies that used it to sell catfight media.
And now they are purging that media, and chasing those companies away? Brilliant, just brilliant.
Quote from: angrmgmt on July 02, 2024, 06:55:12 AM
The only reason I even know about the odd Gumroad platform is b/c of companies that used it to sell catfight media.
And now they are purging that media, and chasing those companies away? Brilliant, just brilliant.
All platforms are so reliant on payment processing. Mastercard and Visa have far too much power as private companies and basically get the platforms over a barrel and say if you want payment processing this content has to go. The platforms don't want to turn business away its more they have to throw cetain things on the bonfire or the whole business burns
Quote from: MrRain on July 02, 2024, 07:06:58 AM
Quote from: angrmgmt on July 02, 2024, 06:55:12 AM
The only reason I even know about the odd Gumroad platform is b/c of companies that used it to sell catfight media.
And now they are purging that media, and chasing those companies away? Brilliant, just brilliant.
All platforms are so reliant on payment processing. Mastercard and Visa have far too much power as private companies and basically get the platforms over a barrel and say if you want payment processing this content has to go. The platforms don't want to turn business away its more they have to throw cetain things on the bonfire or the whole business burns
I wonder how come adult shops in real life that use credit card processing arent as affected by this, why does online get treated so differently? Or maybe they do?
Quote from: MrRain on July 02, 2024, 07:06:58 AM
All platforms are so reliant on payment processing. Mastercard and Visa have far too much power as private companies and basically get the platforms over a barrel and say if you want payment processing this content has to go...
I doubt this was the result of pressure from payment processors. Many other sites exist that carry considerably racier and extreme material, with support from VISA and other common processors.
This reeks of a internal decision, the kind produced by hapless and misguided managers.
Quote from: angrmgmt on July 03, 2024, 02:34:16 AM
Quote from: MrRain on July 02, 2024, 07:06:58 AM
All platforms are so reliant on payment processing. Mastercard and Visa have far too much power as private companies and basically get the platforms over a barrel and say if you want payment processing this content has to go...
I doubt this was the result of pressure from payment processors. Many other sites exist that carry considerably racier and extreme material, with support from VISA and other common processors.
This reeks of a internal decision, the kind produced by hapless and misguided managers.
Gumroad used Stripe, the same payment processor who abandoned Wishtender which was due to Mastercard and Visa pressure. As a producer in the Adult Industry and also a committee member of the UK Adult Industry Association, SNAP let me tell you that Mastercard and Visa are EXACTLY the reason why platforms are deplatforming specitic fetishes or adult full stop. Financial discrimination of the the Adult Industry is a real threat which the FSC and other industry bodies are battling.
Quote from: angrmgmt on July 03, 2024, 02:34:16 AM
I doubt this was the result of pressure from payment processors. Many other sites exist that carry considerably racier and extreme material, with support from VISA and other common processors.
This reeks of a internal decision, the kind produced by hapless and misguided managers.
Gumroad utilizes Stripe/PayPal to process their payments, and they
HATE adult-related content.
If I'm not mistaken all this started because of PornHub not checking on what content was being uploaded about 5 or so years ago
Quote from: jaybee on July 03, 2024, 08:34:45 AM
If I'm not mistaken all this started because of PornHub not checking on what content was being uploaded about 5 or so years ago
Way before that. Big banks have been cracking down on porn for quite some time. Google chase bank and Veronica Avluv. That was back in 2014 and they literally shut down the bank accounts of porn stars for basically making a living in the adult industry.
This is only the beginning, if Project 2025 goes through with their agenda I fear we'll be in deep shit when it comes to these type of things. Supposed to be land and of the free and yet adults can't buy porn legally because of the moral police trying to tell us what's good for us.
Quote from: MrRain on July 03, 2024, 03:44:15 AM
Gumroad used Stripe, the same payment processor who abandoned Wishtender which was due to Mastercard and Visa pressure...
Marketplaces have the power to change processors. Ebay demonstrated this recently by dropping American Express due to their high fees.
Processors also face increased competition from competitors like Paypal and Bitcoin. Remarkably, Paypal manages to partner with - and compete against - Visa and MC.
VISA and MC may indeed be guilty of using their clout to force media marketplaces to filter their content.
But, as I've stated, if a marketplace allows a processor to filter their content, it is a business decision. They have the freedom to change processors.
Quote from: jaybee on July 03, 2024, 08:34:45 AM
If I'm not mistaken all this started because of PornHub not checking on what content was being uploaded about 5 or so years ago
The issue with Pornhub was not that it was
adult content, per se.
Rather, it was that some of that content was illegal. For example, some content was obtained through illicit means, without the consent of the participants.
This caused the content to be legally suspect, and this brought about several consequences, such as the abandonment of the payment processors and the site being blocked in various places.