What questions should I ask them? Hoping to get them to elaborate. It's Shannon from Shannon vs Jen, and Lori from Lori vs Theresa.
I also got some brief background info from both of them on these fights. Looking to get more.
I figure I might look back and say "I wish I asked her x". So I'm trying to avoid that while I still have their ears.
With Shannon vs Jen, a good bit of context is explained in a pre-fight interview segment. I can def. pull a link if you want or maybe send the file.
The only additional info was that Shannon claimed Jen was starting it. Shannon claimed she was young and angry at the world at the time. And Jen went to a hotel with her BF after the fight and soaked in the tub. That last part is the juiciest detail. It's kind of like you're admitting you got pummeled so bad that need a hot tub to heal lol.
Lori didn't say much. She said she was supposed to fight someone else that was her weight, but she bailed. So they threw Theresa in there. She knew she would not likely win. She stated "I wish I made better contact with my punches". Tell me about it.
This occurred because I posted the vids on Facebook and both went viral. Eventually they made it back to Lori and Shannon.
I checked my messages requests on Facebook, and realized Shannon wanted a copy of the fight. She asked where I found it. I responded happily, but she hasn't messaged back yet.
Wanted a chance to make my questions count, so I made this thread.
Do they still keep up with anyone else who participated?
What more background can we dig up on the producer?
This is a gold mine right here
Anyone they would still want to fight today ?
In my opinion, the Shannon vs Jennifer fight was the best fight ever put out by Crystal. I believe it was featured in video magazine 7. Does that sound right?
In some of the Crystal fights, it seems that some rules were in place, such as no closed fist punches to the face, etc. That's not all the Crystal fights, but it does seem like some of them were like that. And in some of their fights, the girls seemed somewhat hesitant to really go at each other. But Shannon and Jennifer both went at each other with no apparent holds barred. I particularly loved it when they got a good hold on each other, and really went at each other.
I would be very curious to know if they ever fought again off camera.
Quote from: wasteland1952 on December 01, 2022, 10:17:04 PM
In my opinion, the Shannon vs Jennifer fight was the best fight ever put out by Crystal. I believe it was featured in video magazine 7. Does that sound right?
In some of the Crystal fights, it seems that some rules were in place, such as no closed fist punches to the face, etc. That's not all the Crystal fights, but it does seem like some of them were like that. And in some of their fights, the girls seemed somewhat hesitant to really go at each other. But Shannon and Jennifer both went at each other with no apparent holds barred. I particularly loved it when they got a good hold on each other, and really went at each other.
I would be very curious to know if they ever fought again off camera.
Kelly vs Deb was equally good and evil. These girls, too, went straight to each other. It was also an excellent fight as were some of Crystal's
Quote from: wasteland1952 on December 01, 2022, 10:17:04 PM
In my opinion, the Shannon vs Jennifer fight was the best fight ever put out by Crystal. I believe it was featured in video magazine 7. Does that sound right?
Your opinion was shared by many Crystal customers way back then. The Andi vs. Michele fight is often considered to be the best, but that's based of the two participants, not on the quality of the encounter. This battle always came up as Number One on the old Crystal website, and on Barb's website, based on the intensity and the length of the fight.
I think that you're right about Vid Mag #7, but I wouldn't bet a large sum of money on it.
Lori didn't say much. She said she was supposed to fight someone else that was her weight, but she bailed. So they threw Theresa in there. She knew she would not likely win. She stated "I wish I made better contact with my punches". Tell me about it.
Interesting, i would have asked these qustions to Lori
I believe Lori was Mary's friend? did u ask Lori about Theresa's 2 fights with Mary?
When Lori fought Theresa was Mary there in the background? ( I thought I heard her cheering her on)
Did she fight Theresa before or after Mary did?
Did Crystal try and arrange a 3rd fight between Mary and Theresa?
Did Lori ever get uncut videos of some of the Crystal fights?
Would be great to find out the answers of some of these questions.
Thanks
Were the fights always over after the match or did anything spill over afterwards? I remember one fight where these girls were fighting and their sisters were watching them. After the match the winner kicks the loser while down and then it got so heated the sisters got involved and were ready to brawl. Deb starts yelling to break it up and the video ends.
That was Shannon vs Leslie 3. They really hated each other. But Shannon bested Leslie twice
Shannon didn't get back to me. Not sure if she's not been online or what.
Lori, the thread is still up, but I haven't had a reason to bump the thread really.
I don't know if anything will become of it. But I can message people their FB profile if you really want.
I'd have liked to have seen more of Taylor, I cant recall if she only fought Andi but did she ever work for any other video producers or just disappear into obscurity after her Crystal career ?
can you share the facebook links ?
Quote from: drtheglob on November 29, 2022, 07:49:40 AM
What questions should I ask them? Hoping to get them to elaborate. It's Shannon from Shannon vs Jen, and Lori from Lori vs Theresa.
I also got some brief background info from both of them on these fights. Looking to get more.
I figure I might look back and say "I wish I asked her x". So I'm trying to avoid that while I still have their ears.
I know this quite an old thread now.
Like I said before, Lori was Mary's friend, if you still in contact with Lori you could ask her if she has any contact with Mary? Or when was the last time she seen her?
Thanks
I'd be curious to know if either had any other arranged fights after Crystal. Also, Corie was one of my favourites because she was sexy but also aggressive. I also like Maylay because she was a mature .curvy brawler.
Amazing, I posted the Shannon vs Jennifer fight on Reddit a while ago. Shannon found it and messaged me. I know it's her because she mentioned the same life details that she had previously mentioned. So it seems unreasonable to think it could be anyone other than her, in my opinion.
Shannon said:
QuoteWe did get paid for the fight they offered more if we showed more skin, and neither of us wanted to do that. I'm so glad I was at least smart enough to say no to that back then. The winner got more, the reason I didn't try to land supper hard blows because you only got paid for contact time wich was like 7 plus minutes, the actual fight was like 20 minutes that's why we sound so out of breath. Neither of us had any training on fighting, not to say I hadn't been in a fair amount of fights. I am the oldest of 5 kids. It was somewhere around 1994 to 1995. I got paid $675. I'm not sure what Jennifer got paid. There was blood. They just didn't show it she had 2 black eyes, a busted lip, and bruises. I had scratches on my chest and a sore nose and 2 broken knuckles. She didn't break My nose, but got 2 really got hits into it. Whoever gave in 2 times lost. She gave in twice I never gave in. In case you were wondering, lol
If you want an update to where we are now I can tell you where I am lol, I don't know how this video got out and about after so much time , I am alittle embarrassed after reading the comments. I was young, angry, and not a professional fighter. Since then, I joined the Navy, I was a corpsman, met my current husband, we got married, and had my 2nd child, went to nursing school. I have been a nurse for over 20 years. Mostly in the emergency room. I am currently a director of an emergency room. Still married with 2 grown successful children. And very successful myself. The things we did when we were young, you live, and you learn lol. There's an update on my side. I have no idea what happened in Jennifer's life. Shannon
Can anyone think of any other questions I could ask Shannon?
I'd ask them these questions:
What do your family members think of you doing catfights in your past ?
Would you want your daughters doing catfights?
How did the producers really treat you in the business ?
If you had to do it over again, would you still have done catfights ?
What kind of relationship do you have nowadays with any of your opponents ?
drtheglob, I found Shannon's reply to your query very interesting. Like you, I agree her reply seems genuine, but I am curious.....how did she "find" her old fight on reddit? I mean, from her reply to you, it seems she became a pretty successful woman. Is she still interested in fighting, so she found the fight you posted? Also, does her husband know she fought? I also wonder if she is concerned that her family might "find" the fight video?
I've wondered that for a lot of the former Crystal fighters....does their current husband/boyfriend know about their fighting history?
I'm not requesting you ask her these questions, I guess I'm just being nosey.
Thanks
Quote from: Soulsville on December 04, 2022, 09:59:21 PM
I'd have liked to have seen more of Taylor, I cant recall if she only fought Andi but did she ever work for any other video producers or just disappear into obscurity after her Crystal career ?
I also adore Taylor and, of course, would like to know more about her, although I don't think she won much. I only know her fight with Amber, where they fought almost on equal terms, and Amber felt bad at the end of the fight, and with Garnett, and two fights with Andy. There is also a Rayray fight, a double fight, but I can't find it.
Agree with CatScrap. There's no way in hell they want their granddaughters doing this.
Quote from: CatScrap on January 18, 2024, 06:35:52 PM
Quote from: Horny-Jew on January 18, 2024, 05:52:26 AM
Agree with CatScrap. There's no way in hell they want their granddaughters doing this.
Think it would be worse if their Grandson's got access to it.. "Here's Grandma back in the 90s topless, wearing stockings breaking another woman's face open with her knees" LOL
Or worse. "Here's Grandma back in the 90s topless, wearing stockings getting her face broken by another woman with her knees"
Quote from: VikCFF on January 19, 2024, 11:05:11 AM
Quote from: CatScrap on January 18, 2024, 06:35:52 PM
Quote from: Horny-Jew on January 18, 2024, 05:52:26 AM
Agree with CatScrap. There's no way in hell they want their granddaughters doing this.
Think it would be worse if their Grandson's got access to it.. "Here's Grandma back in the 90s topless, wearing stockings breaking another woman's face open with her knees" LOL
Or worse. "Here's Grandma back in the 90s topless, wearing stockings getting her face broken by another woman with her knees"
LOL or Oh now I know Grandma how you got that scare !