Well done Shelley. I was just thinking Mary had been beaten. Top pulled open and a relentless opponent who looked up for it and very capable.
https://xhamster.com/videos/shelley-vs-mary-xhoNdVz
That was an excellent fight.
I don't know how long Mary fought for Crystal, but she was the undisputed champ for quite some time. I believe she did get beat at some point, but I don't know who beat here. Shelley was one of her tougher opponents but even she called it quits after a while.
I hadn't seen that fight in a long time. Thanks for the post!!
Gotta love those Battling Barefoot Babe's! Mary was the bomb. I have watched a lot of Crystal fights over the years. I don't think I have seen this one. Thanks for posting!
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Yes, Mary won the fight and the beauty contest too.
Mary got beaten by Smoke (or at least draw):
https://ge.xhamster.com/videos/strippers-catfight-xhqXqym
Shelley had another even fight too, against Cori
good fight until Shelley ran out of breath! Bit shitty of Mary to carry on attacking when her opponent had quit. But that's what happens in the midst of an angry fight. We get emotional! lol
Really loved how Shelley kept taking it back to Mary, so much bigger than her. Really wish she wouldn't have run out of steam at the end, but when Mary bulled her hard against the wall then dropped her weight on Shelley down on the ground, that really turned the tables. Still, she had nothing to be ashamed of, She pounded on Mary from one side of that room to the other throughout the bulk of that brawl. I can guarantee that Big Mary was sore the next day, and probably sporting a black eye. Brava!
Thinnk Mary was undefeated, but got into trouble for fighting pregnant, i think i heard on here. Smoke and now this one were the only times I seen her close to losing. If you notice when she starts to lose she accuses her opponent of brealking the rules and they give her a bit of a break which she takes advantage of. Mary was ruthless, dangerous, and vicious.
I really thought Shelley would take Mary, being, more solid looking and younger but Mary sure did have stubborness and stamina in large quantities and hung in to win.
Great post - thanks
Quote from: Texaskid on November 27, 2022, 11:37:39 PM
Thinnk Mary was undefeated, but got into trouble for fighting pregnant, i think i heard on here. Smoke and now this one were the only times I seen her close to losing. If you notice when she starts to lose she accuses her opponent of brealking the rules and they give her a bit of a break which she takes advantage of. Mary was ruthless, dangerous, and vicious.
You are correct, Mary did do a fight in her first trimester of pregnancy, ended up getting hurt and sued Crystal over it. This why Crystal shut down. My ex and I were friends with Deb and Eric (co-owners) and after Eric passed away Deb retired and moved out to the mid west but has since filled me in on everything.
Bear with me if I already asked this question (crappy memory ????) - did Mary ever fight Deb?
Mary never fought deb and Mary did not lose to smoke either
The fight between Mary and Smokes was a fantastic brawl, starting with their own takes on a fight they had at a club, which left scores to settle and this fight was going to give them the opportunity to do. The fight started with both ladies slowly circling, a brief inaudible exchange of words with both grinning and some nervous giggles. When they grabbed at each other the grins disappeared immediately to be replaced by angry expressions, both wincing slightly, it was on! They kind of twirled around before crashing to the floor with a thud, fists swung and fingers raked at faces, Mary looking to gouge Smokes' eyes. The fight stopped later when Mary complained that her pussy was exposed by her panties, Smokes took the opportunity to wet her hair, perhaps to cool down or to make it more difficult to pull. Mary continued to mar the fight by complaining, eventually Smokes understandably got sick of the breaks in the fight and stormed off into the kitchen of the building they were fighting in. Mary now seemed to become desperate and screamed for the fight to resume. She eventually stormed into the kitchen demanding Smokes come back into the room and fight her, an exchange of words lead to a brawl breaking out between them in the kitchen, which was quickly stopped by the producers, not before punches were thrown and grunts heard. I would award the fight to Smokes because of Mary stopping it early. Would have dearly loved to see them resume the fight but sadly they didnt that day. A rematch would have been fascinating.
Mary controlled the whole fight! She wanted smoke back and she wasn't woman enough to come back! They could have done it topless! Mary would have prolly been down to do it nude! Mary is my gal and id love nothing more to fight a dude along side her! She is undefeated, hands down!
While I would agree that Mary was probably the best fighter in the Crystal stable, I never really cared to watch her fight. I like intense competition, but I think that there's line between intensity and brutality. IMO Mary's fights were brutal, i.e. beyond intense, and not something that captured my fancy. I've always questioned the sanity of people (male and female) who simply like to fight and basically beat the s**t out of another person. That was Mary. Even Barb alluded to that. Also, as time went on her appearance changed as she became increasingly gaunt, i.e. lacking female curves.
That's just my take, and I know that it's not worth much.
I find the replies to this post to be fascinating, especially the reply from central_pa_couple because they knew some of the people who were actually involved with Crystal.
It blows me away that a woman would get into a catfight knowing she was pregnant, if she did know it. How early was she in her first trimester? If she didn't know she was pregnant, that's one thing. But if she knew it, and chose to fight anyway, how could she get away with suing Crystal?
I'm actually surprised Crystal managed to stay in business as long as they did. I remember way, way back when Crystal was called Crystal Films. And I remember their Catspats magazine and old films before they changed to Crystal Videos. How many video mags did they produce, 17 or 18? I can't remember. But I think they were very lucky that no one got seriously hurt in one of their fights. And someone could have suffered a broken neck or even died. Think of the liability.
Quote from: wasteland1952 on December 02, 2022, 09:14:14 PM
I think they were very lucky that no one got seriously hurt in one of their fights. And someone could have suffered a broken neck or even died. Think of the liability.
Could not agree more. I don't care how many waivers a fighter signed prior to the fight, the company was way, way out on a liability limb if someone had been seriously injured. What would their defense be? "Uh, we pay girls to fight for money so that we can video them and sell the vids." One can only imagine the reaction of a judge or jury.
I recall seeing one fight on Youtube that never made it onto a Vid Mag. Two larger girls were battling, and one had gotten behind her opponent, grabbed her around the waist, picked her up and drove her into the mat. The top (not the crown, mind you) of the girl's head slammed into the mat. Anyone who has been around football or wrestling knows that such an action can result in neck or even spinal cord damage. She screamed as she hit the mat, and the camera stopped. I suppose that she wasn't seriously hurt, or we would have heard about it, but that would have it for me as a producer -- bullet dodged.
Quote from: Dude64 on November 29, 2022, 03:08:05 AM
Mary controlled the whole fight! She wanted smoke back and she wasn't woman enough to come back! They could have done it topless! Mary would have prolly been down to do it nude! Mary is my gal and id love nothing more to fight a dude along side her! She is undefeated, hands down!
There were many periods where neither lady was in control, including one where they stood at one end of that sofa and traded punches to the face and neck, tempers were completely gone and I was surprised the producers didn't stop the fight, glad they didn't by the way, but i would not say Mary controlled the whole fight, had that been the case, why did she keep stopping it?
Because her thong was off and she didn't want her primates exposed. Even the announcer said Mary was getting the better of her! Why wouldn't smoke come back and fight if she was winning?
There are interesting comments on here regarding what constitutes an an entertaining,acceptable fight. For as long as I can remember the thought of women or girls fighting just excites me beyond measure. Here's my conundrum. I like to see females fight but I hate to see them hurt or bloodied. I'm glad to say it is possible for women to fight hard without getting hurt other than soreness or bruising which women who play rugby experience every weekend. The concept of placing two women in a room, no referee and letting them fight was mind blowing to me and when I saw the fight between Mary and Theresa, I felt it would never be bettered. Both in black underwear, a personal choice, they removed their bras and flew at each other woman to woman. Pushing, pulling and dragging each other round by the hair was exciting enough but there was a section in which both had each other's hair with one hand and with the other hand were pounding each other. It was breath taking and at that point it seemed clear the ladies weren't there because of fight money, they were fighting to see who would win, and we're fighting like women. Mary looked delighted doing her winning pose but the fight was that close a rematch happened a few days later. I saw the full version years ago but the clip I find now ends with both ladies bent at the waist with Mary shouting for Theresa to let go of her hair, even though she is pulling Theresa's. Great fights, both.
On the internet you hear shouts of no hair pulling, it's pussy. To me it's an enevitable and exciting part of females fights. These spectators at real fights would be better shouting no head stomping or banging on concrete, no kicking in the face. Perhaps I look back through rose coloured glasses and remember days when slapped and didn't punch, kicked thighs and locked together and grappled and when a fight was won it stopped, there was no gratuitous violence.
Quote from: Dude64 on December 04, 2022, 03:39:18 PM
Because her thong was off and she didn't want her primates exposed. Even the announcer said Mary was getting the better of her! Why wouldn't smoke come back and fight if she was winning?
Very sadly we will never know for certain, perhaps frustration at the stoppages, perhaps fear, when two women take part in a brawl, it sometimes doesn't take much to put one or both off and they reconsider and lose motivation to continue fighting, a bit like an athlete cooling down.
Quote from: Dude64 on December 04, 2022, 03:39:18 PM
Because her thong was off and she didn't want her primates exposed.
I think that you meant to write "privates" and not "primates." As someone who makes occasional errors, this made me chuckle.
I understood that the man who invented predictive texting had died. May he restaurant in peace!
Not a huge fan of the fight as it doesn't get me aroused. ;D