I've been mulling this question over for years. Of course not everyone likes the loser, but many of us do. But why?
So I'll put forth a theory.
First, I'm pretty sure this is hardwired into some very old part of the brain. I also think it's likely that it provided some evolutionary advantage a long, long time ago for females to submit if they lost a fight. We are all just animals in the end.
It's possible that early females fought for their place in the reproductive pecking order.
The dominant female, the alpha, got to reproduce. The defeated female, if they were submissive enough, might be
allowed to reproduce by the dominant female.
In this scenario the males would be hard wired to want the submissive females as there was only one dominant female to go around.
The submission was important so the dominant females offspring would be assured the most food. Any non-submissive loser would not be trusted by the dominant female to reproduce. The submission was also important to save the loser from taking too much punishment, it needed to be convincing so the fight would stop.
So the males looked for the attractive convincing submissive losers and mated with them. If a female put up a good fight it would show she is strong even if she lost. But it was the submission that became hardwired in the males mind.
On a personal level I like strong confident women. However my wife was by nature very submissive and could never have won a match. It was hot imagining her body stretched out into various positions. But for whatever reason I think men especially consider the weaker woman to be more feminine and many men may not like the idea of a stronger woman as maybe they see them as being to masculine.
I would personally want to breed with the dominant, aggressive winner of catfights. Mila rose would be a fun baby mumma ;D
Let my try some words... well, I dont think that all men "only like the loser" - to say it in simple words. But, maybe we can have a poll to check who likes losers and who likes winners?!
Me, I like both. A triumphant winner is something great. It's nice to see her dominate, to see her grin at the loser, to see her mock the loser.
But, I also love losers. I love to see them exhausted, to see them disappointed, and out of power. My theorie (for me) is, that it is about the exhaustion.
My theory is that it's about exhaustion after the fight. The moment after a submission or heavy defeat is similar to the moment after an orgasm. The person is lying on the floor, breathing heavily, completely exhausted. So my theory (for me) is that it is this feeling after sex that is so emotionalising for us with losers.
well, i sure don't know why men like the losers, but i do know that there are lots of men who like watching me take a beating at the hands of a bigger, stronger woman...
Quote from: Daytripper on October 08, 2022, 08:12:23 PM
Well, my wife has only had one real fight, which she lost. She will talk about it too! Which I like!
What was the fight over she had? Was it against a girl you know and find attractive or was it with someone before you? I just wonder how willing she would be to discuss it if the girl was one you both knew and was attractive enough to be a rival for your attention.
I think most males in the animal kingdom are designed by nature to breed as widely as possible, while females are often more selective of their partners. Humans are no different. When an attractive female struggles and loses a fight, either by crying out her submission or being rendered unconsciousness, her vulnerability arouses the male psyche because at that point she is powerless to stop the potential advancement of a male whom she might otherwise not have mated under normal circumstances. In her beaten state, she could do nothing to prevent the penetration of her body and the planting of that seed in her womb. I'd guess that is why males find a defeated female particularly stimulating, as the whole scene plays to the primal urges are that programmed in our brain.
I don't think that wanting the looser is at all a universal thing. We have a HUGE diversity of interests here. Some completely want the winner. Some the looser. And some it just doesn't matter who wins or looses. And even in there it is a range. Some want it close. Some want to see total domination. I am guessing there are as many "why's" as there are people into it. I think the theory I like the best is the Damsel in Distress. Men feel a need to protect weaker females. The victor doesn't need our protection. So they are drawn to the looser more than the winner.
I have found if you fight to the end no matter what they respect you, my first kiss my guy said wondered if the other girl would have given earlier and saved herself from the beating I got thst day.
If I had a choice between the winner and the loser, I'd take the winner. If my wife were to be involved in any kind of competition, I'd want her to win -- and it would be the same with her. I certainly wouldn't abandon her, should she lose, but in the Bear Family it's about winning, being the best (if possible). Anybody can lose.
I like a woman that seems powerful yet gets dominated by another woman. In other words, powerful looking=sexy, powerful acting=not sexy. I find the ability to fight well to be unattractive. The ability to throw a hard, accurate punch does not look very feminine.
Quote from: DAS Writer on December 24, 2022, 03:31:46 PM
I think most males in the animal kingdom are designed by nature to breed as widely as possible, while females are often more selective of their partners. Humans are no different. When an attractive female struggles and loses a fight, either by crying out her submission or being rendered unconsciousness, her vulnerability arouses the male psyche because at that point she is powerless to stop the potential advancement of a male whom she might otherwise not have mated under normal circumstances. In her beaten state, she could do nothing to prevent the penetration of her body and the planting of that seed in her womb. I'd guess that is why males find a defeated female particularly stimulating, as the whole scene plays to the primal urges are that programmed in our brain.
I love this explanation! Very hot ????
Quote from: AnitaSpanking on October 05, 2022, 11:10:04 AM
well, i sure don't know why men like the losers, but i do know that there are lots of men who like watching me take a beating at the hands of a bigger, stronger woman...
I would love to see AnitaSpanking in a catfight, but I don't want this hot, sexy, petite Latino woman to get hurt. Maybe her top gets torn a little, but her not hurt :)
I was talking to my boyfriend about my passion for fighting. My boyfriend told me that he would also prefer that I lose in a fight, it looked sexy to him.
But he changed his mind after I showed him a photo of my bruised face from a losing fight.
It's very strange for me when a guy likes when his girlfriend loses in a fight.
I love to see the sexier girl lose. I like the submission, the pain, the crying (if she does).
I don't like them knocked out, but writhing in pain...
Can't really put it into words why - I guess so that I can comfort her
Quote from: CarliCF on December 28, 2022, 11:46:44 PM
I have found if you fight to the end no matter what they respect you
Quote from: Rita_FF on January 08, 2023, 01:08:35 PMIt's very strange for me when a guy likes when his girlfriend loses in a fight.
I guess I'm one of the rare guys that
doesn't want to see their girlfriend/partner/spouse whatever get hurt at all.
Like avoid the fight at all costs.
I would love for her to fight and win, and to go down fighting I'd also respect.
Just not the humiliation part afterwards.
No no...I'm the asshole in the crowd with a Shotgun and blanks and bean bag shells that ruins the entire mood if it reaches that point.
It is an interesting question, to me, i think it has to do with we as humans when we see the "underdog" losing a small part of us wants to see a win pulled out, and to break the over confident one who looks and often seems to be the winner before it begins. My husband has admitted to me more than once when i am losing to another he finds it hot and sexy but as it becomes clear i am going to lose he cheers me on harder to come back.
And in matches where i was going to clearly walk out the winner he has secretly hoped my opponent would get that second strength and pull off a win. (None of which i get mad at him for) but i find the times i lose and he wanted to see the other Oman win, i want a rematch that much more. As for instinct? I would have to guess it falls in the same order, beit the animal kingdom or human, we choose the dominate alpha but there is that side that thinks , hopes, maybe prays the less alpha shows what she/he is really capable of. Lets face it even a timid rodent trapped in a corner will fight and bite back.
I'm a straight guy that never wants a girl to get hurt. Maybe tired, exhausted possibly some minor redness, but that's all. I never understand the people on this forum that like the real fights ending with bloody noses, black eyes, etc,... Do they want broken bones, fractured faces, dislocated shoulders, concussions, etc,...???
Well because
Nirmaöly the loser
Is More Woman
Amd More Beautiful